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    Why didnt the Trophy sell
    on: May 23, 2020, 07.54 am
    May 23, 2020, 07.54 am
    Hi everyone

    This has probably been answered previously but why didn't the Trophy sell?

    I know Triumph didnt promote it very well but the BMW RT out sold it 5:1

    Thoughts?

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    Re: Why didnt the Trophy sell
    Reply #1 on: May 23, 2020, 08.26 am
    May 23, 2020, 08.26 am
    What surprises me is that Triumph launched it in the first place. Even BMW knew that the game was up in this segment and have been diversifying away from their old core market for around the last two decades.

    Triumph don’t have the size and financial muscle to hope to match the overpowering might of BMW’s most vital and successful division, their marketing department, either  :164:
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    Re: Why didnt the Trophy sell
    Reply #2 on: May 23, 2020, 11.36 am
    May 23, 2020, 11.36 am
    I have often wondered about this.

    There are few options now for a Sports Tourer.

    I had a Kawasaki 1400GTR, which I really liked, it was a tad on the Sport side rather than Tour side, but Kawasaki did not develop it and it had no toys.

    The ST1300 was very tired when Honda stopped making that no changes for the last ten years of its life, it is still a good tool and the V4 motor goes on forever.

    Yamaha's FJR is physically a bit short for me although a good solid bike, our local Police use them for a Tourer their range is very limited.  Now I think this is the only current competitor to the BMW RT.

    Our TTSE's look very similar to the RT but the lumpy twin with clunky gearbox is no match for our three-cylinder super smooth mile muncher.  I'm sure the current RT has worked on my perceived issues but my local BMW dealer will only allow one-hour test rides which give no chance to get the real feel of a completely different bike.

    So we all have to cherish our current bikes as there is no obvious alternate:

    1.  Become Adventure riders
    2.  ST1800  I know Honda call it a wing but it's just as close to an ST1300.
    3.  K1600GT?



    Last Edit: May 23, 2020, 11.38 am by GarminDave
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    Re: Why didnt the Trophy sell
    Reply #3 on: May 24, 2020, 01.51 am
    May 24, 2020, 01.51 am
    I think most have the reason why. sport touring is a tiny market anymore. Everyone wants a naked or adventure bike. The Trophy was pricey, sorta too much like a RT and limited dealer network. I enjoy my Trophy but it is a little top heavy. The motor is stellar buts need another 30hp.


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    Re: Why didnt the Trophy sell
    Reply #4 on: May 24, 2020, 04.15 am
    May 24, 2020, 04.15 am
    That would be the K1600 then, which is exactly what all the magazines tried to compare the Trophy to when it first came out, because the RT WASN'T comparably equipped.  More expensive to buy and maintain, but a road rocket if you bought the right model.
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    Re: Why didnt the Trophy sell
    Reply #5 on: May 24, 2020, 06.43 am
    May 24, 2020, 06.43 am
    I think the Trophy is a great bike, albeit with rubbish front brakes, (already discussed extensively). I and my pillion in a mill' rode a BMW  R1250RT around Italy/Austria/France for 2 weeks. I thought the seat was more comfortable but She thought her seat was worse than the Trophy. We didn't like the flat twin chug chug engine BUT the lower centre of gravity made getting around unfamiliar cities and their narrow streets/carparks much easier. I wonder if even the FJR1300 will die due to EURO emissions rules ? Anyone have an opinion on that given that my Trophy will need to be replaced at some stage ? Stay safe all.

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    Re: Why didnt the Trophy sell
    Reply #6 on: May 24, 2020, 07.30 am
    May 24, 2020, 07.30 am
    *Originally Posted by GarminDave [+]
    1.  Become Adventure riders
    2.  ST1800  I know Honda call it a wing but it's just as close to an ST1300.
    3.  K1600GT?
    Hi Dave,

    you forgot alternative  4
    4. Honda GL 1800  aka Goldwing

    But to come back to topic.
    The Trophy is a fine tourer, but there had to be further evolution.

    First of all: bringing the weight down
    Second: bringing the weight down
    Third: get rid of the minor problems: electrical, music stops when you cut off the engine and the screen is lowering.
    or instable connection to usb port and music stops cause there is 'no device'.
    forth: bringing the weight down.

    Klaus

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    Re: Why didnt the Trophy sell
    Reply #7 on: May 24, 2020, 07.38 am
    May 24, 2020, 07.38 am
    There were the same calls to “bring the weight down” with the Explorer.

    The first thing that we got on Gen 3 was a weight saving by fitting an anaemic little battery. The all new Explorer will be with us soon and it looks more like an upsized Tiger 800/900 and it’s fitted with a twin sided swing arm too. One of the big pluses when the bike was launched (with serious tourers in mind) was that it had the most powerful alternator fitted to any bike in its class; these are the sorts of things that get sacrificed for weight.

    While I hear what you’re saying, we sometimes need to be careful what we wish for!
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