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  • Offline Gmiller

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    Pannier key barrel removal
    on: Sep 09, 2020, 04.49 pm
    Sep 09, 2020, 04.49 pm
    Folks
    Had to order a new right hand pannier body and it came without a lock barrel.  I would like to transfer over the old lock barrel from the old pannier body so same old key can be used on new pannier body.  Dealer said to cut it out with a Dremel tool.  Is there a more elegant way to get the old lock barrel out and insert it into the new pannier body??  Thanks in advance.
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    Re: Pannier key barrel removal
    Reply #1 on: Sep 10, 2020, 02.55 pm
    Sep 10, 2020, 02.55 pm
    Sadly the dealer is right.  Once the barrel is installed in the paniers or the trunk it cannot be removed without cutting.

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    Re: Pannier key barrel removal
    Reply #2 on: Sep 10, 2020, 04.05 pm
    Sep 10, 2020, 04.05 pm
    My understanding is they CAN be changed but some find it a bit fiddly. Apparently the locks are the same as those found on certain caravans and motor homes, for which there's a master key available for just this purpose.

    Also worth reading this...
    https://www.triumph-trophy.com/index.php?topic=3701.0

    EDIT:
    Try this also...
    https://www.key2code.co.uk/store/p907/FW_High_Security_Caravan_%26_motorhome_lock_barrel_removal_tool.html#/
    Last Edit: Sep 10, 2020, 04.09 pm by T800XC
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    Re: Pannier key barrel removal
    Reply #3 on: Sep 10, 2020, 04.40 pm
    Sep 10, 2020, 04.40 pm
    Apparently the locks are the same as those found on certain caravans and motor homes,
    for which there's a master key available for just this purpose.

    Sorry to disappoint, but they aren't the same type of lock
    and there is no Master Key for removal of the Trophy Lock Barrels.

    The only way I have found to remove them is with some sort of Pick
    to get at the 7th Locking Wafer, which lies beyond the 6 Key wafers,
    and is held under spring pressure into a groove in the base of the cylinder
    preventing the barrel from being retracted.

    Only the plain flat side of the Locking wafer is accessible through the keyhole,
    so the Pick must make contact with the wafer with enough friction
    to able to drag it out of that groove against the spring pressure. 

    Save your money and don't bother buying that FW Barrel Removal Key - it won't work !   :110:

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    Re: Pannier key barrel removal
    Reply #4 on: Sep 10, 2020, 04.51 pm
    Sep 10, 2020, 04.51 pm
    As I already mentioned and put photos, in a post, I took out the two bowlers from both saddlebags in a matter of seconds and inserted another two bowlers from the same key.

    Of course, I always make copies of the keys of the motorcycles that I have owned and I always keep the originals in a safe place, the copy keys are the ones I use every day.

    When changing cylinders, insert the copy keys to remove your cylinders. I don't know if that would have something to do with it or not.
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    Re: Pannier key barrel removal
    Reply #5 on: Sep 10, 2020, 09.21 pm
    Sep 10, 2020, 09.21 pm
    I saw this post I started looking for the bowlers that I took from the 2 saddlebags and I read the comment that Coconut made about the last click, I have seen that one of the bowlers that I found that click was submerged, not under pressure, which is probably the reason that they came out so easily.

    I do not know they came from the factory or the previous owner, since I bought the motorcycle second hand.

    That being said, I have studied the bowler hat and there is only one way to remove them very easily.

    A thief takes it out in a second and without breaking anything. Hahaha.

    I have made a small tool that works well, and without breaking anything, the bowlers come out of their housing easily.

    I will put photos of the tool.
    Last Edit: Sep 10, 2020, 09.25 pm by digital
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    Re: Pannier key barrel removal
    Reply #6 on: Sep 10, 2020, 09.42 pm
    Sep 10, 2020, 09.42 pm
    Thanks to all!  Broke out the Dremel tool and cut the plastic around the lock and removed the whole thing out from the old Pannier carcass.  Once out you turn it upside down.  Undo the Allan key bolt to access the bottom of the barrel.  Pull out a small plastic insert and the 7th wafer is accessible from the bottom of the barrel.  Stick a small screwdriver in there and retract the spring loaded 7th wafer.  Barrel then drops out. Keep key in the barrel at all times and note barrel orientation so you know how to reinsert in the new pannier.
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    Re: Pannier key barrel removal
    Reply #7 on: Sep 11, 2020, 09.40 pm
    Sep 11, 2020, 09.40 pm
    I'm guessing that the process is similar for the Panniers,
    but I just posted a New Topic for removing the Top Box lock here :

    HOW TO: Remove the Top Box Lock Barrel ( at last ! )

    Cheers  :821:

    Last Edit: Sep 11, 2020, 10.05 pm by Coconut

     



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