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    Cutting out when decelerating and dipping clutch.
    on: Sep 24, 2020, 08.18 pm
    Sep 24, 2020, 08.18 pm
    Hi not been on for a while as busy do voluntary work deliveries.

    Iíve had an issue a number of times now when slowing down to a stop.

    I ease off the throttle and dip the clutch and the engine has cut out before coming to a stop. Sometimes Iíve not been aware and the motor as bump started itself, other times I roll to a stop. It seems it only happens with a combination of clutch & throttle.

    Iím sure a read somewhere that there was a safety feature or familiar fault in the system but I can find anything. Was hoping the resident guru @Coconut would be along to offer insight. Thanks in advance as this is annoying.
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    Re: Cutting out when decelerating and dipping clutch.
    Reply #1 on: Sep 25, 2020, 12.17 am
    Sep 25, 2020, 12.17 am
    Hello, some days I wondered how you would be, since you have not been seen here for a long time.

    I'm glad to read you here again.

    The problem you have when lowering the accelerator and taking the clutch, it is very possible that you have to adjust the position of the accelerator, or the sensor needs to be replaced.

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    Re: Cutting out when decelerating and dipping clutch.
    Reply #2 on: Sep 25, 2020, 12.25 am
    Sep 25, 2020, 12.25 am
    I think you have DialerTool, with that tool you can adjust the throttle position, watch out! Do not confuse throttle position with throttle balance adjustment, to adjust throttle position, you must do it with the engine running.
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    Re: Cutting out when decelerating and dipping clutch.
    Reply #3 on: Sep 25, 2020, 12.43 am
    Sep 25, 2020, 12.43 am
    Hello,

    I had the same issue with my Trophy. The workshop tried many things.
    The solution was to change the crankshaft sensor (T1291921).
    Klaus
    Last Edit: Sep 25, 2020, 12.48 am by Mr. B.

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    Re: Cutting out when decelerating and dipping clutch.
    Reply #4 on: Sep 25, 2020, 08.56 am
    Sep 25, 2020, 08.56 am
    Was hoping .... @Coconut would be along to offer insight.

    First of all - be aware that "@......" or "#........" type Tags from Social Media sites
    DON'T WORK for notifying or alerting other Members on a Forum such as this.
    ( I do read most new Forum Posts though and saw the comment ! )

    If a Member wants to contact another Member directly,
    using the Private Message facility is usually the best way.  :028:


    In addition to comments already posted, I presume there are no DTC's stored ?

    Next, I would check for an air leak at the Throttle Body transition pieces,
    especially if this problem developed soon after any Dealer Servicing work
    where they may have been disturbed,  as they can apparently be a little awkward
    to refit and seal correctly, and this could result in the symptoms you have.

    With regards to "DealerTool" ( not DialerTool )
    a number of things can be checked, including whether the Throttles are balanced,
    but I am not aware of the Throttle Position adjustment feature mentioned by digital,
    and that may be a feature that is only available with the Triumph Dealership Diagnostics software.

    Something you can do easily yourself though, is to run the "Engine Adaption" procedure,
    which can reset a few things and may help.  This process examines and resets the :

    • Closed throttle position reference status
    • Twist grip adaptation
    • Oxygen sensor adaptation status ( off idle )
    • Oxygen sensor adaptation range ( off idle )
    • Oxygen sensor adaptation status ( idle )
    • Oxygen sensor adaptation range ( idle )

    The procedure is :
    • Ensure the engine is COLD
    • WITHOUT TOUCHING THE THROTTLE ( throughout the complete process ),
      Start the engine and allow it to warm up until the Cooling Fans come on.
    • Leave the engine to idle for a minimum of a further 12 minutes. ( Longer doesn't matter ).
    • Turn the Ignition OFF


    Cheers  :821:

    Last Edit: Sep 25, 2020, 12.23 pm by Coconut

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    Re: Cutting out when decelerating and dipping clutch.
    Reply #5 on: Sep 25, 2020, 07.19 pm
    Sep 25, 2020, 07.19 pm
    Coconut, doesn't the Dealer Tool have the throttle sensor trim feature?

    For a short time, I had a DealeTool in my possession that I finally gave it to a friend and I thought it was incorporated.

    In the photo you will see if DealeTool has something similar.


    Throttle sensor adjustment


    Sensor

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    Re: Cutting out when decelerating and dipping clutch.
    Reply #6 on: Sep 25, 2020, 10.00 pm
    Sep 25, 2020, 10.00 pm
    I will check my version of dealertool tomorrow for this feature but I don't recall seeing it, only the balance part springs to mind.

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    Re: Cutting out when decelerating and dipping clutch.
    Reply #7 on: Sep 26, 2020, 09.44 am
    Sep 26, 2020, 09.44 am
    *Originally Posted by earthman [+]
    I will check my version of dealertool tomorrow for this feature but I don't recall seeing it, only the balance part springs to mind.

    Thank you earthman.

    If that sensor is faulty, dust inside it or, most commonly, it is out of adjustment, it does things like what Eloteq says, when pulling the clutch and lowering the throttle, the engine stops. For example at traffic light stops etc.
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