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    CF moto 1250 tourer
    on: Sep 25, 2020, 08.42 am
    Sep 25, 2020, 08.42 am
    This Chinese collaboration could well test the loyalties of non-dyed-in-the-woolTriumph owners now the Trophy disappeared.  I dare say they put right a few things that Trophy got wrong...at the right price as well...

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    Re: CF moto 1250 tourer
    Reply #1 on: Sep 26, 2020, 01.44 am
    Sep 26, 2020, 01.44 am
    Interesting Novocastrian, very interesting. Only problem I can see is it's chain drive not shaft. I know in this day and age that chains and sprockets are very reliable, long life, but require the maintenance that a shaft doesn't. Still it seems to look to be an interesting option when it arrives. Wonder if it will make it "down under". That is the question. We wait and wonder. Cheers.  :158:
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    Re: CF moto 1250 tourer
    Reply #2 on: Sep 26, 2020, 02.25 am
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    Then there's the new chain available from BMW that they say doesn't need cleaning or lubrication.
    www.rideapart.com/articles/441257/bmw-motorrad-m-endurance-chain/
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    Re: CF moto 1250 tourer
    Reply #3 on: Sep 26, 2020, 09.53 am
    Sep 26, 2020, 09.53 am
    Interesting article, but it immediately makes me think,
    if the chain is not going to wear, doesn't need to be lubricated or cleaned,
    what effect will this have on the Sprockets - Are they going to wear faster ?  :084:

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    Re: CF moto 1250 tourer
    Reply #4 on: Sep 26, 2020, 12.52 pm
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    I think that BMW are taking out of their rear end personally, I can imagine that the sprockets will just wear out faster too.

    They need to do some long term testing and show us the proof rather than leave all that to the paying customer. Lol

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    Re: CF moto 1250 tourer
    Reply #5 on: Sep 26, 2020, 01.50 pm
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    Maybe all the parts are coated with the same material.  I don't know, but my first thought as well was what about the sprockets.  Maybe I should have asked the BMW guys while I was at the dealer last Thursday.  A friend that has a Trophy and a GS and was in North Carolina for our get together sent me the link about it.
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    Re: CF moto 1250 tourer
    Reply #6 on: Sep 26, 2020, 03.40 pm
    Sep 26, 2020, 03.40 pm
    There's been a few comments about the chain drive versus shaft drive (more vocally from the various Facebook groups where individuals do not exercise the same self-control as in this group  :008: :008:)

    Thinking about it, all my bikes have been chain drive (including my last Trophy 1200) and was it really any great shakes to adjust or even replace ?  Well, not really.  So if my current Trophy SE was no longer with me and I was looking for a decent tourer, the Chinese bike (particularly with the KTM engine) I'm pretty sure would fit the bill.  There's a lot of folks out there today with very strong and somewhat biased views on CHinese products that do not realise the quality of items they can produce these days.  The Chinese are not stupid; they know full well a product will not sell in the UK in this day and age unless it is indeed decent quality.  We have a CHinese motorcycle dealer half a mile from here and I have to say the quality of all the bikes he stocks is very good indeed (I've already stated I ride an AJS-badged Chinese scooter that goes like the wind - to 55 mph anyway and stops on a sixpence).  If I didn't want o pay big money for BMW or Japanese bikes, then Chinese bikes would come in to the equation.

    My only concern is my preparedness or willingness to support products from a country where I have great reservations on other matters, but then it is a political and morality decision that comes into play - for me, anyway.
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    Re: CF moto 1250 tourer
    Reply #7 on: Sep 26, 2020, 04.07 pm
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    Exactly.  Personal opinion about the origins of the product.   :821:
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