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    30k Miles Service
    on: Sep 26, 2020, 06.06 pm
    Sep 26, 2020, 06.06 pm
    So, I reached the 30,000 miles mark on my Trophy the other day, and set out to perform the required maintenance.

    Everything went smoothly until I decided to replace the problematic gearshift bolt with the upgraded version. It turns out that the Factory Assembler must have been having a bad day when he put my Trophy together. The bottom most bolt securing the outer cover to the sidestand assembly, and ultimately the frame, was severely cross threaded. I was able to eventually able to remove it without snapping the fastener, but it took a lot of effort with a breaker bar.

    I figured that I would try to re-tap the threads when it became apparent that the damage was confined to the first 10mm or so of thread. In order to access the bore, I had to remove the other two bolts securing the sidestand assembly. One of those two bolts was also cross threaded. Not Good!

    After purchasing the correct M10-1.25 Tap & Die set from the local hardware store, I was able to successfully re-tap both threads. When I proceeded to re-assemble everything, the two sidestand bolts snugged up to the proper spec easily, but the third bolt that went through the cover would not tighten. Huh.

    After some head scratching, I decided to measure the depth of the bore. It turns out that the bolt that was fitted by Triumph was 10mm short of what it should be. Go Figure.

    It's not easy to find a stainless steel M10-1.25 x 60mm Socket Head Cap Screw in Northern Wisconsin, so I had to temporarily settle for a galvanized version, but after fitting the longer bolt, I am happy to report that I was able to overcome Triumph's indiscretion.  :233:


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    Re: 30k Miles Service
    Reply #1 on: Sep 26, 2020, 06.39 pm
    Sep 26, 2020, 06.39 pm
    Believe it or not, I had the same exact bolt (only had issues with it) do the same thing to me when I was adjusting the gear shift lever because of adding the lowering foot pegs ( you know the pegs I was pestering you about with PMs, Saddletramp :164:)

    Purchased new bolt and had to tap hole. Thought it was my fault and had cross threaded it myself  when reinstalling but, maybe it wasn't!
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    Re: 30k Miles Service
    Reply #2 on: Sep 26, 2020, 07.31 pm
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    I can only surmise that the Clown that assembled my Trophy used a pneumatic wrench for assembly, and if that was the case, shame on Triumph for tolerating it.

    I’m not at all surprised that I was not the only person this happened to. What is more significant to me is the fact that the incorrect length bolt was used to fasten the connection in the first place.

    And I didn’t consider your reasonable questions at the time as pestering...  :038:

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    Re: 30k Miles Service
    Reply #3 on: Sep 26, 2020, 09.08 pm
    Sep 26, 2020, 09.08 pm
     :028: Thanks again for all your input and info!

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    Re: 30k Miles Service
    Reply #4 on: Sep 26, 2020, 09.20 pm
    Sep 26, 2020, 09.20 pm
    After some head scratching, I decided to measure the depth of the bore.
    It turns out that the bolt that was fitted by Triumph was 10mm short of what it should be. Go Figure.

    It's not easy to find a stainless steel M10-1.25 x 60mm Socket Head Cap Screw

    Strange !  :084:

    The Lower Side Stand Cap Head Bolt that goes through the Control Plate ( Footrest Hanger )
    is shown on the World of Triumph Web Site ( Part Number T3332127 ) as being M10 x 50mm long ?

    The other 2 Side Stand Bolts ( T3205825 ) are shown as being M10 x 45mm.



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    Re: 30k Miles Service
    Reply #5 on: Sep 26, 2020, 09.59 pm
    Sep 26, 2020, 09.59 pm
    *Originally Posted by Saddle Tramp [+]


    Hahahahaha, I see that your nickname is the same as the tuned radio station. Nice detail and it looks very good.
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    Re: 30k Miles Service
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    *Originally Posted by Coconut [+]
    Strange !  :084:

    The Lower Side Stand Cap Head Bolt that goes through the Control Plate ( Footrest Hanger )
    is shown on the World of Triumph Web Site ( Part Number T3332127 ) as being M10 x 50mm long ?

    The other 2 Side Stand Bolts ( T3205825 ) are shown as being M10 x 45mm.




    Exactly!
    That 50mm bolt is barely engaging the threads.
    An accounting decision to limit parts inventory perhaps? Either way, that decision saved me from having to fit a helicoil repair.

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    Re: 30k Miles Service
    Reply #7 on: Sep 26, 2020, 11.05 pm
    Sep 26, 2020, 11.05 pm
    I have never encountered problems with the screw you mention. Next time I take that part apart, I'll measure that screw.
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