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    Electrical Connectors
    on: Nov 12, 2020, 02.04 am
    Nov 12, 2020, 02.04 am
    Does anyone know the brand ( and part numbers )  of connectors used on the Trophy ?

    I'm thinking of installing some spotlights and adding separate relays for the low & high beams and need a connector - I think it's a 6 Pin connector that the Low/ High beam handlebar switch wires go to.
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    Re: Electrical Connectors
    Reply #1 on: Nov 12, 2020, 07.50 am
    Nov 12, 2020, 07.50 am
    I found a U.S. supplier of the REAR Light Unit connector,
    which is a 5-Way plug & Socket :

    Ballenger Motorsports so they may have what you are looking for.

    Other connectors on the Trophy, such as those for the front Indicators
    appear to be manufactured by TE Connectivity

    If you are able to access the Connector, examine it closely
    for any Markings and Numbers, then "Google" any that you find.

    Don't bother enquiring with Triumph - from past experience, they won't help !

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    Re: Electrical Connectors
    Reply #2 on: Nov 12, 2020, 10.14 am
    Nov 12, 2020, 10.14 am
    *Originally Posted by STJIM [+]
    Does anyone know the brand ( and part numbers )  of connectors used on the Trophy ?

    I'm thinking of installing some spotlights and adding separate relays for the low & high beams and need a connector - I think it's a 6 Pin connector that the Low/ High beam handlebar switch wires go to.
    Can you post a picture?

    If it's the connector I'm thinking of then it's most likely an AMP Econoseal J 6-way. You should be able to find plenty of these on eBay, or being in the US try Mouser, Newark or Digi-Key.


    Note: AMP are part of TE Connectivity now, or vice versa.
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    Re: Electrical Connectors
    Reply #3 on: Nov 12, 2020, 12.33 pm
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    Thanks guys.  Sounds like I shouldn't have too much trouble finding one.  I'll take a close look.

    BTW, I took a look at the electrical wiring diagram in the Service Manual and was surprised to discover the Trophy doesn't have a low beam and high beam relays.  There is a relay that the ECU controls that supplies 12 volts to the handlebar high/low switch, but all the headlamp current flows through the high/low switch instead of through separate relays like in every other make that I am aware of.  I may add two relays for that.
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    Re: Electrical Connectors
    Reply #4 on: Nov 12, 2020, 06.20 pm
    Nov 12, 2020, 06.20 pm
    Triumph do seem to have a few strange electrical "designs" -
    Like using ( :172: ) Crimped connections that are buried inside Harness looms,
    and partial Wiring Diagrams that sometimes don't match up with wiring diagrams
    on other pages of the same Service Manual.  :164:

    ... or including the "Oil Pressure Switch"
    in the Lighting Circuit Wiring Diagram ( Item 10 Page 18.37 ! )  :087:

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    Re: Electrical Connectors
    Reply #5 on: Nov 12, 2020, 10.40 pm
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    Ya, I hear you Coconut.  I can't find where the ground for the headlights comes from in the Service Manual wiring diagram.

    Thanks T800XC for that Econoseal lead.
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    Re: Electrical Connectors
    Reply #6 on: Nov 13, 2020, 01.10 am
    Nov 13, 2020, 01.10 am
    Well, the lead on the Econoseal connectors didn't pan out - no cigar.

    I took a wild guess and went to Eastern Beaver :

    http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Elec__Products/Connectors/Sealed/SMDL/smdl.html

    and bingo - it looks like they are Sumitomo DL 90 connectors.  Cycle Terminals also has them but the pins they sell are for only 18-22 AWG wire.   Eastern Beaver has the pins for that size wire and also 14-16 AWG wire sizes.

    So now I'm wondering if all the connectors on the Trophy are Sumitomo connectors.  Why would they use more than one brand ?

    Here are the pics of the plug & receptacle on my Trophy

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    Re: Electrical Connectors
    Reply #7 on: Nov 24, 2020, 12.02 am
    Nov 24, 2020, 12.02 am
    Got the connectors today from Eastern Beaver.  They were shipped from Japan on Frida.  Not bad, 3 Day delivery from Japan to Michigan.  I wonder how long it would take for them to be delivered to the UK?

    Yup, those are Sumitomo connectors on the Trophy - at least I have identified the majority of them as Sumitomo connectors that Eastern Beaver stocks in various styles & number of pins.

    Now to wire up two relays to supply the current to the high & low beams.  i don't like all the headlamp current going through the handlebar switches.  And if I can find a way to mount some spotlights, I'll wire those up too, maybe using a Skene LED controller.
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