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Re: Oil Filter trouble
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2021, 10:46:21 pm »
I've only had to do that once and that was for a filter that was cross-threaded by someone else.  I was in an automotive shop environment and that was pretty much a last resort before having to cut the filter off or use a chisel at the base.  While less than ideal, there is only so much you can do with a filter that refuses to come off.
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Re: Oil Filter trouble
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2021, 01:54:22 am »
*Originally Posted by earthman [+]
Personally I'd never even think of doing that because what if that doesn't work, you'll be left with an engine/bike that you can't run. Have you ever thought of that, what else would you try then??

I had to do the screwdriver trick on a Harley once that had been installed by a dealer (the filter is so close to the crank case that the end-cap style filter wrenches don't fit).  Filter that had no chance of coming off by hand came off VERY easily with the amount of mechanical advantage that screwdriver provides!

Switched to K&N filters with the 17mm nut on the end after that.  Never had a problem again. 


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Re: Oil Filter trouble
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2021, 08:57:33 pm »
I am 100% with your choice to go K&N OP. They aren't the very best filters ever, but they are completely adequate, and they make r&r a trivial task.

On a side note, you can make the process hugely easier by taking a dremel to your fairing and opening up that area. This is an awful pic, but if you look at the fairing in the filter area you can see where I cut a curve, then a straight line across the area, then curved back up to meet the original line of the fairing. It should have been shaped like this from the factory imo.


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Re: Oil Filter trouble
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2021, 07:21:36 am »
*Originally Posted by earthman [+]
Personally I'd never even think of doing that because what if that doesn't work, you'll be left with an engine/bike that you can't run. Have you ever thought of that, what else would you try then??

Ahh, it'll still run.  Just not for very long.

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Re: Oil Filter trouble
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2021, 07:48:43 am »
Got all the tools including a Strap Wrench but I've also had to carefully use the long screwdriver on a few occasions with bikes and cars as a last resort.

There's NO other way of getting them shifted otherwise... :230:
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Re: Oil Filter trouble
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2021, 12:57:21 pm »
I meant to post before...re: hard to remove filters.

1. Get some of those pliers posted earlier in the thread for sure.
2. If it's stubborn, stop, and run the bike until it's hot. This makes the rubber seal on the filter softer, and easier to move.
3. Patience is a virtue here. Grab with the pliers, and apply steady pressure, slowly ramping up how hard you're trying. The rubber seal will slowly deform, and eventually start to move. Once it moves at all, you're home free.
4. On the Trophy, I can't recommend my fairing cutout mod enough...makes the job trivially easy and super fast.
5. You can get the HiFlo Filtro filter with the nut on it on Amazon for less $$ than the K&N. It is literally the same filter, just with the OEM branding instead of K&N.

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Re: Oil Filter trouble
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2021, 01:52:02 pm »
It's generally a good idea to warm the engine up anyway before an Oil Change -
in addition to softening up the rubber oil filter sealing gasket slightly,
it makes the oil thinner, so it drains it more quickly and completely.  :169:


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Re: Oil Filter trouble
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2021, 01:57:35 pm »
*Originally Posted by Coconut [+]
It's generally a good idea to warm the engine up anyway before an Oil Change -
in addition to softening up the rubber oil filter sealing gasket slightly,
it makes the oil thinner, so it drains it more quickly and completely.  :169:



I should have been more specific. I'm saying that if the filter is hard to remove, get it all the way hot. That isn't necessary when changing the oil..running for a minute or so is sufficient.

 



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