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Offline Rhannigan

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Fourth Gear All-Time?
« on: April 19, 2021, 01:28:35 am »
So, I'll probably catch alot of crap for this, but I'm going to post anyway.

I went riding today and, by total mistake, I stopped at a red light from 4th gear without downshifting. To my surprise, I went from stop to 25mph keeping it in 4. For the rest of the ride, I stopped, started, turned 90-degrees and traveled everywhere from 0-70mph in 4th gear - no shudders, no stalls. It was liking having an automatic.

Now I know I shouldn't be doing this everyday and get too comfortable with this, but has anyone else noticed this with your Trophy, this wide range Gear 4? Never ever could I get away with this with my Honda. My Honda 700's gears are very strict and would never let me stop and start from 2nd, 3rd or 4th gear.

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Re: Fourth Gear All-Time?
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2021, 07:22:48 am »
The Trophy 1215cc Triple engine has plenty of torque available at low speed,
which is why you can do this, but there are plenty of reasons not to,
including, but not necessarily limited to :

  • Greater risk of stalling the engine, which could result in dropping the bike
  • Reduced acceleration - when it might be needed
  • Reduced engine braking
  • Reduced control of the bike
  • Greater wear on the clutch
  • Greater wear of other transmission components
  • It wasn't designed to be ridden like that !

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Re: Fourth Gear All-Time?
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2021, 02:41:51 pm »
Welcome to the world of the Triumph Triple. 

Now stop doing that.

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Re: Fourth Gear All-Time?
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2021, 03:21:03 pm »
*Originally Posted by smash [+]
Welcome to the world of the Triumph Triple. 

Now stop doing that.

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Re: Fourth Gear All-Time?
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2021, 06:33:25 pm »
*Originally Posted by smash [+]
Welcome to the world of the Triumph Triple.  Now stop doing that.

Please
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Re: Fourth Gear All-Time?
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2021, 10:35:04 pm »
Rhannigan,
Your post reminds me of the claim that BMW used to make about the torque & flexibility of the k1200lt's.
They had a(rightfully) claim that you could drive a k1200lt from 20 to 120mph without ever having to shift gears.
That was true of 4th gear on those bikes. 5th was a 25% overdrive & you really needed to be going about 50mph to use it with any real power.
But, that bike would haul up to 120 in 4th. Because of the heavy overdrive, it would not go any faster in 5th.
Anyway, your post reminded me of that old BMW claim.
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Re: Fourth Gear All-Time?
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2021, 07:59:22 pm »
*Originally Posted by LarryJa [+]
Rhannigan,
Your post reminds me of the claim that BMW used to make about the torque & flexibility of the k1200lt's.
They had a(rightfully) claim that you could drive a k1200lt from 20 to 120mph without ever having to shift gears.
That was true of 4th gear on those bikes. 5th was a 25% overdrive & you really needed to be going about 50mph to use it with any real power.
But, that bike would haul up to 120 in 4th. Because of the heavy overdrive, it would not go any faster in 5th.
Anyway, your post reminded me of that old BMW claim.

And it reminds me of the character BMW-bikes had until the beginning of this century. Their models were touring-bikes in the first place, maybe except the one-cilinder types with a Rotax-based engine. From the late K100, BMW two-, three- and four-cilinder models offered a widespread torque, where the Japanese had a more power-output by using higher revs at the cost of a smaller useable torque-band. Later on Yamaha compensated that by introducing five-valve cilinderheads and now even BMW, like others, builds variable valve-timing in several models. Triumph has always been good at offering widespread torque. It is one of the nice things you experience on a Trophy. Clever people they are in Hinckley. ;-) It is wise however to treat the engine the way Coconut summed up.

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