Author [NL] [FR] [ES] [DE] [SE] [IT] Topic: movement/play at the rear wheel  (Read 2264 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

  • Offline Trophy1215

    • Trophy Junior  ‐    5
    • *
    • Topic Author

    Offline Trophy1215

    • Trophy Junior
    • *
    • Topic Author
    • Posts: 5
    • Bike: Trophy 1215
    • City / Town: Den Haag
    movement/play at the rear wheel
    on: Aug 05, 2021, 06.36 pm
    Aug 05, 2021, 06.36 pm
    hi!

    Is it normal that when I press the rear tyre at the following position, I feel a small movement or mechanic play (just 1mm or less)? I feel this if the bike is on the central stand.



    Could this be something related to the cardan/drive shaft? Bike had the drive shaft oil fluid recently replaced (26.000km)
    Thanks in advance for your input!
    peter
    Last Edit: Aug 05, 2021, 06.46 pm by Trophy1215

  • Offline RedMerle   gb

    • Trophy Master  ‐    1014
    • ****
      #1

    Offline RedMerle

    • Trophy Master
    • ****
    • Posts: 1014
    • Bike: TTSE’s + Tiger 1200
    • City / Town: St Cleer, Cornwall
    • Country: gb
    Re: movement/play at the rear wheel
    Reply #1 on: Aug 05, 2021, 08.05 pm
    Aug 05, 2021, 08.05 pm
    The three I have are 7,800 miles, 13,500 miles, 14,000 miles and an Explorer with 19,000 miles.

    All have this to some extent, it’s the way they are 🙄
    Keeper of
    “The Cornish Trophy Sanctuary”
    🙄😁

  • Offline sin_tiger   gb

    • Trophy Master  ‐    518
    • ****
      #2

    Offline sin_tiger

    • Trophy Master
    • ****
    • Posts: 518
    • Bike: Trophy SE Lunar
    • City / Town: Maybole
    • Country: gb
    Re: movement/play at the rear wheel
    Reply #2 on: Aug 05, 2021, 08.41 pm
    Aug 05, 2021, 08.41 pm
    Try to get someone to put a dial gauge on it to get a repeatable reading with the hub in different positions as feelings can be a bit subjective. Even then it really needs to be checked against service limits measured as factory specified to be meaningful, I confess I haven't checked.

  • Offline digital   es

    • Trophy God  ‐    2831
    • *****
      #3

    Offline digital

    • Trophy God
    • *****
    • Posts: 2831
    • Trophy SE 1200
    • Bike: digital
    • City / Town: Barcelona
    • Country: es
    Re: movement/play at the rear wheel
    Reply #3 on: Aug 05, 2021, 09.00 pm
    Aug 05, 2021, 09.00 pm
    As RedMerle says, and has several Trophies, it is within the norm, as long as it is that minimum game.

    I have exchanged two tapered boxes for new ones and they always have some play.

    I have already discussed this with some trophy holders in Spain, who said that they shouldn't have any games at all.

    All bearings, bearings, pinions, etc., must have a small play, if this were not the case and there was no play, their grooves would break (in the case of the conical cardan). So if you notice that it has a millimeter or less, as he says. In that sense, you should not worry.

    If the excess of play, it is something else, if it is necessary to ensure well since then, if it is worrying.
    Only motorcyclists know why dogs stick their head out the car window.


  • Offline RocketSteve   gb

    • Trophy Master  ‐    604
    • ****
      #4

    Offline RocketSteve

    • Trophy Master
    • ****
    • Posts: 604
    • Bike: TTSE & Boss Hoss
    • City / Town: Bideford
    • Country: gb
    Re: movement/play at the rear wheel
    Reply #4 on: Aug 06, 2021, 08.53 am
    Aug 06, 2021, 08.53 am
    As mentioned already above, you need to measure at the rim with a DTI and keep a regular check on the play.
    I think mine was about 0.2mm.

    To test a man's character, give him (horse) power.

  • Offline Trophy1215

    • Trophy Junior  ‐    5
    • *
    • Topic Author
    • #5

    Offline Trophy1215

    • Trophy Junior
    • *
    • Topic Author
    • Posts: 5
    • Bike: Trophy 1215
    • City / Town: Den Haag
    Re: movement/play at the rear wheel
    Reply #5 on: Aug 06, 2021, 09.20 am
    Aug 06, 2021, 09.20 am
    Thanks all for the input! Greatly appreciated. I will definitely try to mesasure the play with a proper tool.  For now, I stopped by a Triumph dealership that assured me this amount of play is normal. They even showed the same play on a Tiger 1200 (2018).


  • Offline manuD

    • Trophy Member  ‐    12
    • **
      #6

    Offline manuD

    • Trophy Member
    • **
    • Posts: 12
    • Bike: Trophy SE
    • City / Town: Aubagne
    Re: movement/play at the rear wheel
    Reply #6 on: Aug 31, 2021, 03.22 pm
    Aug 31, 2021, 03.22 pm
    Hi
    Found same problem on mine (2015) 80000km
    I remove rear wheel and found a big play between rear disk support and end of cardan. No play on cardan.
    I get an appointment with Triumph on 14 September to check. I will let you know.
    Mine is near 2mm .I stop driving with it.
    regards

    Manu

  • Offline manuD

    • Trophy Member  ‐    12
    • **
      #7

    Offline manuD

    • Trophy Member
    • **
    • Posts: 12
    • Bike: Trophy SE
    • City / Town: Aubagne
    Re: movement/play at the rear wheel
    Reply #7 on: Sep 17, 2021, 09.14 am
    Sep 17, 2021, 09.14 am
     :006:

    Hi

    Rear bevel need to be change.
    After a full service at 64000km, i ask to check the rear wheel rear disk and caliper,everythink was ok said
    Triumph in Avignon.
    At 76000km lot of play at rear wheel (5mm) at least.
    Triumph keeps machine(too dangerous to drive.
    Triumph says you have to change complete rear bevel and rear disk that will  cost me 2200 euros.
    In 12000km rear bevel destroy????
    What do you think?
    I ask my self if i will keep this bike???

    Tell me if you think i can ask Triumph about this problem???


    Let me know

    Regards

    Manu