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    Alarm problem after installing switchback indicators
    on: Oct 08, 2021, 04.30 pm
    Oct 08, 2021, 04.30 pm
    HELP!! I have a bit of a problem!
    Just installed LED switch-back indicators on my 2014 TTSE. Lights work a treat……however, the alarm is not responding to the remote or giving its beeps or lights now powered back up. It seems to have immobilised the system as I don’t have a nuetral light and am unable to start. Any thoughts?
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    Re: Alarm problem after installing switchback indicators
    Reply #1 on: Oct 08, 2021, 05.02 pm
    Oct 08, 2021, 05.02 pm
    Sent you a PM  :028:


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    Re: Alarm problem after installing switchback indicators
    Reply #2 on: Oct 09, 2021, 12.03 pm
    Oct 09, 2021, 12.03 pm
    All sorted now !   :164:    :028:


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    Re: Alarm problem after installing switchback indicators
    Reply #3 on: Oct 09, 2021, 12.23 pm
    Oct 09, 2021, 12.23 pm
    Is the immobilizer a optional feature or standard at the SE in the US?
    Have not come across it... would I have a extra key fob? (bought my lady second hand)

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    Re: Alarm problem after installing switchback indicators
    Reply #4 on: Oct 09, 2021, 12.32 pm
    Oct 09, 2021, 12.32 pm
    They all have an Immobiliser - indicated by the little red flashing light
    within the Instrument Panel when the Ignition is off.
    ( See Page 26 of the Owners Handbook ).

    There is a coil receiver around the Ignition switch
    that detects a Transponder Chip encapsulated within the Ignition Key,
    and provided the Code of that Transponder is pre-programmed into the ECU,
    the Immobiliser circuit will de-activate allowing the engine to start.

    The problem originally discussed here concerned an add-on Triumph branded
    Datatool S4 alarm, which integrates with the Trophy circuits to provide Immobilisation
    and an Alarm function that sounds a siren if the Bike is tampered with.

    Where the add-on alarm has been fitted a Remote Fob is used to activate and de-activate it.

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    Re: Alarm problem after installing switchback indicators
    Reply #5 on: Oct 10, 2021, 02.22 am
    Oct 10, 2021, 02.22 am
    Thank you, Coconut- precise and comprehensive as always! Fully understood.

    Makes me think- who can replace / reconfigure an ignition key? just wondering before I really need one... Does the dealertool help here or do I need the help of a triumph mechanic?

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    Re: Alarm problem after installing switchback indicators
    Reply #6 on: Oct 10, 2021, 09.15 am
    Oct 10, 2021, 09.15 am
    *Originally Posted by fluxxcomp [+]
    Makes me think- who can replace / reconfigure an ignition key? just wondering before I really need one... Does the dealertool help here or do I need the help of a triumph mechanic?
    According to the translator to his questions, he is telling me that it is a vehicle ignition key, not that it is the alarm command.
    Yeah that's right...

    Well, at this point I will answer what I found at the time.
    First you need a blank key that has the transponder chip.

    There are specialized houses that with a machine that they have, they can program the blank key.

    On EBay I saw virgin Triumph keys for about 4 or 5 euros ...

    I was visiting a specialized house to have a take away programmed for me, they had blank keys and it was only necessary to make a copy of my key, then read the information on my key and with the machine, clone the new key. The cost you told me will be about 50 euros.

    In the end it could not be, since the operator either did not know or what I know, things got complicated when I told him that it was a motorcycle. Then the operator told me that in order to make the clone of my key, he needed the motorcycle and the documentation for the motorcycle.

    Seeing what happened, it occurred to me to emulate or (deceive) the immobilizer and with copies of the leads I would have the problem solved, the cost of each key was 4 euros and I made 4 copies of leads, two for my TTSE and another two for the set of the ignition key that I have as a spare, (currently, it is installed on the work table) that I manufacture.

    If you make a copy of the OEM key, you can turn on the ignition and unlock the handlebar. But the motorcycle does not start because it does not have the information that the immobilizer needs so that the vehicle can start the engine. Hence, the immobilizer would have to be fooled and it works correctly without having to program a ignition key.
    Last Edit: Oct 10, 2021, 09.21 am by digital
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    Re: Alarm problem after installing switchback indicators
    Reply #7 on: Oct 10, 2021, 09.37 am
    Oct 10, 2021, 09.37 am
    ..... who can replace / reconfigure an ignition key?

    Generally if you need a new Triumph Ignition Key,
    it will need to be obtained from an authorised Triumph Dealer
    as the Transponder Code of the Transponder Chip that is
    encapsulated inside the Key has to be registered with the Trophy ECU
    to allow it to disarm the Immobiliser. 

    DealerTool or TigerTool or TuneECU can NOT do this.

    If you need a copy or a clone of an exisiting Key,
    you may be able to obtain one from a specialist,
    or from an electronics expert such as digital,
    but I will not personally enter into any further conversation
    about that, as it could potentially alert "others" into methods
    of defeating the Security / Immobiliser function of our Trophies !

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