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Offline arran66

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triumph trophy se 1200 vs the honda st1300 pan
« on: September 19, 2013, 08:28:30 pm »
just thought id do a comparison between these too bikes
both of them have been around in one form or another since time began
having owed both these great machines a 2010 pan and now the tt 1200
ill give you the run down on the good the bad and the ugly lol

1st up then the Honda pan st1300

fore st1300
1......simply the best suspension on any touring bike out there in my opinion?
2......the handling is very good your be surprised how you can hustle the pan
        round the tightest of corners lets face it the police used them for years
        that speaks volumes
3......the v4 engine is a gem but only makes around a 125 bhp but its proven 
        to be an ultra reliable unit some clocking over 250.000 miles
4......its very easy to ride ? to easy? if there is such a thing almost boring
        dare I say such a thing

against st1300
1......picking up on that word boring again probably a bit hash? but it is?
2......the dreaded motorway wobble caused by the windscreen mine went back
        to the dealer a couple of times this problem has been well documented on a few
        different forums and bike reviews the whole bike weaves from side to side
        at motorway speeds well the police use bmw now? go figure
3......the lack of standard equipment apart from the electric screen nothing else
        not even a 12v power socket for a sat nav charge your phone etc.
        also a very old fashion clocks layout looks like its still back in the 80s
4......the luggage is fixed to the bike unlike triumph when the wind hits you know it?
        and last but by no means least its price £14200 no equipment and 4000 mile
        service interval's and 42mpg not good

2nd up triumph trophy 1200 se
 
fore tt1200
1......utter pleasure to ride very light throttle and superb handling as all you guys
        know too well
2......masses of standard equipment power sockets cruise, radio, traction control
        muti trip meters, tyre pressure monitoring system, electronic suspension
        the list go's on and on fantastic value compared to the st1300
        and other bikes for that matter ??
3......wind protection aero dynamics windshield is second to none on the
        triumph fantastic wind rain all round weather protection windscreen is
        the best iv ever had on a touring bike
4......the engine is a masterpiece from triumph its just fantastic loads of
        power and torque from the very bottom of the rev range where lets
        be honest that's where you need the torque and power most for touring
        right the way through to the top end the 3 cylinder engine is superb   
        also 10.000 mile service intervals 55ish mpg ,300 miles to a tank of fuel
        price very competitive for the equipment you get also the luggage system
        brilliant idea moves slightly from side to side increasing stability 

trophy 1200se against
1......that stupid lock on the fairing glove box clonking away every 5 mins lol
2......I did have to take my bike back for a front end bar wobble turns out
        the front wheel wasn't balanced correctly at the factory bit of qc
3......to be honest??< I do think the suspension could do with being a bit plusher
        its good but could be better as always this is just my own opinion
4......I find the radio a pain at the moment it all works but I get a rubbish
        reception most of the time < it could be a loose wire or something
        im going to get the dealer to check it out

well there you have it my opinion on both bikes
but hand on heart if the new trophy was out when I bought my pan
I would have gone for the trophy hands down

the st1300 Honda is a great tourer there's no doubting that
but the triumph is light years ahead of the pan now
simply a fantastic bike

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Re: triumph trophy se 1200 vs the honda st1300 pan
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2013, 08:45:51 pm »
Had an ST1300 and I like the bike parts of the ST1300 better, but wanted all the features of the Trophy.  The ST1300 suspension was a little soft, especially two up, while the Trophy has just the right stiffness for me.

Both have annoying niggles and superb motors.

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Re: triumph trophy se 1200 vs the honda st1300 pan
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2013, 06:48:49 am »
I have had the ST1100 for a number of years now (up to 210,000kms) and have test ridden some ST1300. I pretty well agree with the comments.  I particularly love the engine character of the STs (some consider them boring and quiet, but it grows on you in real world riding).  The Trophy blew me away with its real world performance and a bit of character - not an ST, not a 4 but something else.  I seriously debated with myself over getting an ST13, probably second hand, and adding basically what is currently on my bike (McCruise, full comms etc etc) but at the end of the day I wanted all that integrated in as much as possible.  And there is no getting over the handling of the Trophy, which is the other main reason I went for it.  The ST13 just cannot be modified to do what the Trophy does.  And Honda is just plain stingy with extras, so I can't trust them to bring out something I would want.

That said, if I could only have an ST1300 (or even a low mileage ST1100) I would be a happy camper.  My main problem is what to do with the ST11 - I have my 78 GS1000 Suzuki sitting there waiting to get back on the road, and the Trophy does everything and more than the ST11.  I suspect I am in for a sad day of the ST being put out to pasture  :110:

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Re: triumph trophy se 1200 vs the honda st1300 pan
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2013, 12:10:38 pm »
The lack of a Pan replacement from Honda is crazy. Even the "rumours" of a new Pan have dried up.

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Re: triumph trophy se 1200 vs the honda st1300 pan
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2013, 03:15:06 pm »
My experiences of Honda can be summed up in the following sentence....

Honda bikes are technically perfect, personality free zones.

In general this sums up their cars too.

They lack the 'X' factor that people look for.
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Re: triumph trophy se 1200 vs the honda st1300 pan
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2013, 03:23:42 pm »
*Originally Posted by cropbiker [+]
My experiences of Honda can be summed up in the following sentence....

Honda bikes are technically perfect, personality free zones.

In general this sums up their cars too.

They lack the 'X' factor that people look for.

I would agree with you regarding my 1992 VFR750F, but my 1980 CBX and 1983 V45 Sabre both had personality in spades.
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