Author [NL] [FR] [ES] [DE] [SE] [IT] Topic: Disabled TPMS with TigerTool, Red Warning Light Remains Illuminated  (Read 827 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

  • Offline LB36K   us

    • Trophy Member  ‐    33
    • **
    • Topic Author

    Offline LB36K

    • Trophy Member
    • **
    • Topic Author
    • Posts: 33
    • City / Town: Sacramento
    • Country: us
    Disabled TPMS with TigerTool, Red Warning Light Remains Illuminated
    on: Dec 20, 2021, 12.26 am
    Dec 20, 2021, 12.26 am
    Hello and thank you for any help you can offer.
    I disabled TPMS with TigerTool, and the red warning light remains illuminated on the bike's display.

    I enabled it and then disabled it again. Then disconnected the battery... It's still on. Any insight?

  • Offline T800XC   england

    • Trophy Member  ‐    93
    • **
      #1

    Offline T800XC

    • Trophy Member
    • **
    • Posts: 93
    • Bike: Tiger 1200 XRT
    • City / Town: English Riviera
    • Country: england
    Re: Disabled TPMS with TigerTool, Red Warning Light Remains Illuminate
    Reply #1 on: Dec 20, 2021, 02.03 am
    Dec 20, 2021, 02.03 am
    Did you disable it from the instruments (Insts) tab or the TPMS tab in TigerTool?

    Doing so from the Insts tab will remove it from the dash and hide any warnings but the immobiliser will keep transmitting data over the CAN-bus. Doing so from the TPMS tab disables the system completely but warnings will still be shown on the dash unless you also disable it there. This is because the dash is expecting to see pressure data and there is none.
    ...we are reviewing telemetric information in our mission simulator and will advise...

  • Offline LB36K   us

    • Trophy Member  ‐    33
    • **
    • Topic Author
    • #2

    Offline LB36K

    • Trophy Member
    • **
    • Topic Author
    • Posts: 33
    • City / Town: Sacramento
    • Country: us
    Re: Disabled TPMS with TigerTool, Red Warning Light Remains Illuminate
    Reply #2 on: Dec 20, 2021, 03.01 am
    Dec 20, 2021, 03.01 am
     Hi, thanks.

    At first I just disabled it from the TPMS Tab, then after posting this request for help I found the INSTS Tab and disabled it there also. And the light remains illuminated.

  • Online HACKLE   au

    • Trophy Master  ‐    1309
    • ****
      #3

    Online HACKLE

    • Trophy Master
    • ****
    • Posts: 1309
    • Bike: 2016 Trophy 1200se
    • City / Town: Trafalgar
    • Country: au
    Re: Disabled TPMS with TigerTool, Red Warning Light Remains Illuminate
    Reply #3 on: Dec 20, 2021, 11.32 pm
    Dec 20, 2021, 11.32 pm
    LB36K. Since going to the darkside on the rear of my Trophy, and running 31PSI in the rear my red warning light remains on. I'm not concerned by this, I simply put a small piece of black tape with a very small hole in the centre over the light. The small hole is so the light is not as intrusive on night rides. I also ride with the tyre pressure readings always on the dash. That way I can monitor any fluctuations in pressure even though the lights constantly on. Before TPMS systems became the norm a rider was always aware that movement in the rear possibly indicated a reduction in tyre pressure, still works for this old fella. Cheers.  :028: :028:
    HACKLE     I'm too young to be this old.

    FarRider  #379

    IBA Member  #58060

  • Offline trophied   us

    • Trophy God  ‐    4980
    • *****
      #4

    Offline trophied

    • Trophy God
    • *****
    • Posts: 4980
    • Bike: 2013 Trophy SE
    • City / Town: New Braunfels, Tx
    • Country: us
    Re: Disabled TPMS with TigerTool, Red Warning Light Remains Illuminate
    Reply #4 on: Dec 21, 2021, 12.41 am
    Dec 21, 2021, 12.41 am
    And with the much stiffer sidewalls on tires for heavy bikes now it helps to have that advance information before there's enough loss to realize it in the handling.  Having said that, TP monitors can't reveal and impending blowout! :005:  Yep, had one of those with two up on a 250 Ducatio when I was 18.  Fortunately it was at 35 mph.  No crash, but a harrowing experience.  My monitor display is up all the time and I only toggle to other information on the second display and toggle back.  They've already caught a somewhat rapid loss one time that gave me time to get off the road safely. :028:
    One of the Founding Members of the Twisted Trophies

  • Offline LB36K   us

    • Trophy Member  ‐    33
    • **
    • Topic Author
    • #5

    Offline LB36K

    • Trophy Member
    • **
    • Topic Author
    • Posts: 33
    • City / Town: Sacramento
    • Country: us
    Re: Disabled TPMS with TigerTool, Red Warning Light Remains Illuminate
    Reply #5 on: Dec 21, 2021, 01.13 am
    Dec 21, 2021, 01.13 am
    Yeah, tape may have to do..
     :028:

  • Offline T800XC   england

    • Trophy Member  ‐    93
    • **
      #6

    Offline T800XC

    • Trophy Member
    • **
    • Posts: 93
    • Bike: Tiger 1200 XRT
    • City / Town: English Riviera
    • Country: england
    Re: Disabled TPMS with TigerTool, Red Warning Light Remains Illuminate
    Reply #6 on: Dec 22, 2021, 12.48 pm
    Dec 22, 2021, 12.48 pm
    *Originally Posted by LB36K [+]
    Hi, thanks.

    At first I just disabled it from the TPMS Tab, then after posting this request for help I found the INSTS Tab and disabled it there also. And the light remains illuminated.
    The light is controlled by a byte within a message on the CAN-bus, sent from the immobiliser, which would suggest that you've possibly not managed to disable the TPMS.

    If you read my instructions in the following post...Trophy CAN Bus Stuff...but change the command "AT CRA518" to "AT CRA600" you can monitor if there's TPMS data on the bus. If the TPMS is enabled in the immobiliser you'll see something like this...

    600 00 B4 3E 38 00 04 00 0A
    600 10 D2 3E 38 00 04 00 0A

    These messages will be repeated at approximately 1s intervals. Decoding these gives you...

    600 00 B4 3E 38 00 04 00 0A
    00 = Front Tyre
    B4 = 180 / 5 = 36psi
    3E = 62 - 50 = 12C
    38 = Status1 (e.g. battery, wake state)
    00 = Ignore
    04 00 = Incremental counter
    0A = Status2 (e.g. comms, leakage)


    600 10 D2 3E 38 00 04 00 0A
    10 = Rear Tyre
    D2 = 20 / 5 = 42psi
    (The rest as above)

    In the above examples, the last byte in each line is the one containing the TPMS warning light control bit. If you convert the hexadecimal number to binary, then check bit2 you will get the TPMS light status.
    e.g.
    0A = 0000 1010 = Light Off
    0C = 0000 1100 = Light On

    ...we are reviewing telemetric information in our mission simulator and will advise...

  • Offline LB36K   us

    • Trophy Member  ‐    33
    • **
    • Topic Author
    • #7

    Offline LB36K

    • Trophy Member
    • **
    • Topic Author
    • Posts: 33
    • City / Town: Sacramento
    • Country: us
    Re: Disabled TPMS with TigerTool, Red Warning Light Remains Illuminate
    Reply #7 on: Dec 22, 2021, 03.35 pm
    Dec 22, 2021, 03.35 pm
    I'll give it a try (when the rain stop:) Thank you!

     



    tweedy-bunch