Used Trophy SE

[lynxxz694]

Good afternoon,

My first post so mods please move if I am in the wrong section.

I am after a used tourer and have come across this:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125149667782

I know this is a global forum, rather than UK specific, but would value opinion from the collective expertise if this seems a good buy.

Thanks,

Dan

[RedMerle]

From the photographs, the age and the price, that’s definitely well worth a closer look.
It’s a very early bike that ought to have had its cylinder head replaced under warranty - proper documentary evidence of that having been done would make all the difference.

[RedMerle]

That looks like it’s a low heated seat - worth checking as, while standard height seats are easy to find, standard height heated seats are made from unobtainium.

[lynxxz694]

The service history is what is in the photo I think. No idea of cylinder head has been changed or not.

I am really coming around to these as it seems to be everything I am after.

Love the engine too, used one in a Triumph XT I rented last year and it had an Arrow can on which sounded amazing.

[trophied]

Being a 2012 it may not have the electronic suspension.  Nice clean Trophy.

[TripleBBB]

Mines a 2012 Model SE so it does have the electronic suspension , easy to spot if it says 'S' after the Trophy Badge it hasn't , if its an SE it will have the electronic suspension , its also done more mileage than that one , has had the cylinder head replaced and the Bevel box (corrosion) and the front disks ( warped ) under warranty, on its 20k Service the Radiator Drain Plug sheared , not as uncommon as you think. Cannot comment on the seat, both mine are heated and are the standard size. I've owned mine for four years, only issues I've had was the battery which was less than two years old died ( lithium ) now has a sealed lead acid battery, and i removed the TPMS completely, had a fault on the front one , lets just say it required a new one and I'm NOT paying that    I used Dealertool  and a cheap laptop to do it , thats all its used for.

I just like to point out two things , having ridden bikes for over 40 Years and owning a Early 1200 Trophy late 1998 (99 spec ) that hasn't got TPMS either as useful as it is , for the UK market its wasn't a legal requirement until January 1st 2015.

Looking at the pictures i'd inspect the Downpipes where the meet the silencer there looks to be a lot of corrosion there and its a known weak point , mines spot less but i also fitted a non standard Delkelvic years ago. 

[Coconut]

It "may" be a Launch model - I had a '62 Plate that was a Launch model, but mine
was first Registered in October 2012, this one was Registered in November 2012.

The Launch Models came with all the bells and whistles including TPMS,
Heated Grips and Heated Seats, Top Box, and the taller Touring Screen.

If you already have a relationship with a Triumph Dealer,
ask them if they can advise on any Service records, and Recalls.

You can check for outstanding Recalls yourself on Triumph's website,
but only if you have the VIN Number.

IMPORTANT THINGS are :

The Ignition Switch Wiring Safety Recall Inspection ( SRAN 574 ) MUST have been completed.

A 20,000 Miles service, where the Valves are checked and adjusted should have been completed.

If neither of the above have been done - walk away.

The MOT History is always worth a look ......

I would enquire, and inspect any Service / Maintenance documentation, relating to these MOT Advisories :

On 19/11/20 the Trophy Failed the MOT Inspection because a Headlight Bulb
was not working, and the Registration Plate was insecure !

The mileage was recorded as 28,912 miles.

These "advisories" were listed :

    Front Wheel bearing has slight play (5.1.3 (a) (i))
    Rear Wheel bearing has slight play (5.1.3 (a) (i))
    Offside Front upper brake pads worn more than lower
    Oil level slightly high
    Rear Shock absorber has a light misting of oil (5.3.2 (b))
    Front Brake indicates slight fluctuation of brake effort (1.2.1 (e))
    Rear Brake indicates slight fluctuation of brake effort (1.2.1 (e))
 
The same date, and with the same mileage, an MOT PASS was issued
at a different Testing Station, where the same Advisories were again noted.

I would be interested to know WHY the Test was conducted at a different Testing Station,
( especially as it only needed a replacement Headlight Bulb and the Registration Plate securing,
and had not accrued any additional mileage ! ), as this would have required the payment of another Fee,
as a "free" Retest is only available at the same Testing Station that carried out the original Test. 

On 17th April 2021, the next MOT was conducted, some 7 months before it was due, and after only 49 Miles. 
This Test was conducted at a different Testing Station to the two that had previously noted the above Advisories,
and only one of those advisories was still present : "Oil level slightly high". 

It "may" be that the work required to clear those other Advisories had been completed
and a new MOT test was then carried out in order to sell the bike with a full 12 months of MOT,
but I would be asking to see proof of that work, to satisfy myself that everything was legitimate.

Interestingly, the "Rear Wheel Bearing has slight play" Advisory probably refers to play
within the Rear Final Drive Unit, which does not have the usual type of wheel bearings that,
for example, would be found in the front wheel.

If the advisories were cleared by having remedial work done, I'd want to see documentary evidence
such as Purchase Invoices for Front Wheel Bearings, Front Brake Pads, Front Brake Discs,
Rear Brake Disc and Pads, Servicing of the Rear Suspension Unit Shock Absorber ( seals ),
and an explanation of why the "Rear Wheel bearing has slight play" advisory was no longer present. 

A further 409 miles have accumulated from the date of that MOT a year ago,
to when the Seller recorded the mileage for the eBay listing, where it is quoted as 29,370.

If it DID have the 20,000 mile service when scheduled,
it will be due a 10,000 Mile service after another 630 miles.

When inspecting the bike, you may find this Topic useful :

What to look for when Buying a Pre-Owned ( Used ) Trophy SE

.... and this Topic so you can see what is needed at the 10,000 Mile service,
for which any Triumph Dealership would provide you with a quotation
and which may be useful in any negotiations with the Seller ! :

Servicing Data, Reference Info. & DTC ( Fault ) Codes- Scroll to the bottom of the First Post, and click the Link to the "Trophy Forum Service Schedule v0818.pdf"

Let us know how you get on !

Cheers 


 

[sin_tiger]

Originally Posted by TripleBBB

Looking at the pictures i'd inspect the Downpipes where the meet the silencer there looks to be a lot of corrosion there and its a known weak point , mines spot less but i also fitted a non standard Delkelvic years ago.

 Absolutely The welds at the balance pipe is another area.

I think I see plastic caps on the fork tops, which would suggest TES.