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    TTSE 2014 M6 20mm Bolt in oil filter
    on: Apr 23, 2022, 05.08 pm
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    Hi, I have a well maintained 2015 TTSE with 50+ miles on and It developed a funny noise left hand side in low revs a bit agricultural like an old GS1200. So its due a service so it has gone into a bike mech who does my work and very good. Nothing found in clutch, starter motor, cam side and sump, but when he took the oil filter off he found an M6-20mm ln stainless steel small bolt.... The bolt is a stainless steel Hex Head general use bolt. yep very strange... ss as well. Looked at lube plan and pdf's for ifo to where this might have come from..... anyone got ideas? Could it have been deliberatly dropped in viaa the oil fill?? TIA Gazza Cannock UK :763:

    Last Edit: Apr 23, 2022, 05.27 pm by Barkingmaddog

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    Re: TTSE 2014 M6 20mm Bolt in oil filter
    Reply #1 on: Apr 23, 2022, 05.23 pm
    Apr 23, 2022, 05.23 pm
    What form is the Head of the bolt ?

    e.g. Standard Hex headed bolt, Button Head with recessed hex for an Allen Key, Torx, etc.

    Might help work out where it's from !  :084:


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    Re: TTSE 2014 M6 20mm Bolt in oil filter
    Reply #2 on: Apr 23, 2022, 05.29 pm
    Apr 23, 2022, 05.29 pm
     :763: Updated hex bolt description ta, :763: :763: :762:

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    Re: TTSE 2014 M6 20mm Bolt in oil filter
    Reply #3 on: Apr 23, 2022, 06.32 pm
    Apr 23, 2022, 06.32 pm
    This is it.......

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    Re: TTSE 2014 M6 20mm Bolt in oil filter
    Reply #4 on: Apr 23, 2022, 07.20 pm
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    There is an M6 x 20 Hex Head bolt at the base of the Oil & Water Pump.

    Item 3, Part Number T3205065 here :
    World of Triumph : Oil Pump Drive though this bolt may be "encapsulated".

    There are 3 similar Bolts ( T3205066 ) securing the Clutch Slave Cylinder.
    Item 24 here : World of Triumph : Clutch, although the Part description is missing
    from that Web Page,  :164: - which is, "Bolt,HHF,LGHTD, M6 x 1.0 x 20, SLV"

    5 similar bolts ( T3205085 ) secure the Clutch cover ( close to the Oil Filler !  :084: )
    Item 9 here : World of Triumph : Engine Covers and also Item 14 on the same drawing.

    I cannot see any bolts matching the description that could have worked loose
    inside the engine and then found their way into the Oil Filter, and I think it is
    extremely unlikely that the bolt found its way into the Filter from within the engine,
    even, for example, by being dropped into the Sump through the Oil Filler - while the cap
    was removed, as the Oil drawn from the sump first passes through a mesh filter screen,
    then the Heat Exchanger and Oil pump and then into the Filter.

    I think it is much more likely that the bolt found its way into the Filter
    before the Filter was fitted to the Bike.

    Cheers  :821:

    Last Edit: Apr 23, 2022, 07.22 pm by Coconut

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    Re: TTSE 2014 M6 20mm Bolt in oil filter
    Reply #5 on: Apr 24, 2022, 02.06 am
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    Sounds like a good question for Digital. 

    My guess is that somehow the bolt was inserted into the oil filter before the new filter was installed by some practical joker with a warped dense of humor.
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    Re: TTSE 2014 M6 20mm Bolt in oil filter
    Reply #6 on: Apr 24, 2022, 04.48 pm
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    Thank you STIM,
    For these cases it is always better to provide a good photo of that screw and thus we simplify the matter.

    Well I'll give my opinion on it...

    That screw couldn't have been inside the oil pan, because the oil runs through a very small hole and it should curve around and hit that hole. It would be easier for him to win the lottery, for that screw to enter through the hole that goes to the oil filter.

    Think that if that screw had been inside the oil pan, it would have caused a major breakdown and with the consequences that would follow.

    If that screw was inside the oil filter, the following probably happened:

    While they were trying to replace the oil filter, they left the oil filter resting somewhere on the side of the bike. Some clueless person dropped the screw from somewhere else, with such bad luck that the screw fell into the oil filter.
    I don't rule out the possibility that someone put that screw into the oil filter. (It could have been a child) son of the mechanic who sometimes goes to the workshop to visit his father.

    Despite the fact that the screw was lodged inside the oil filter, there was no danger of the oil pan entering. But if it could have happened that due to the oil pressure, the screw had perforated the oil filter plate and caused a large loss of oil.
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    Re: TTSE 2014 M6 20mm Bolt in oil filter
    Reply #7 on: Apr 24, 2022, 05.22 pm
    Apr 24, 2022, 05.22 pm
    *Originally Posted by Barkingmaddog [+]
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    Hi, I have a well maintained 2015 TTSE with 50+ miles on and It developed a funny noise left hand side in low revs a bit agricultural like an old GS1200. So its due a service so it has gone into a bike mech who does my work and very good. Nothing found in clutch, starter motor, cam side and sump, but when he took the oil filter off he found an M6-20mm ln stainless steel small bolt.... The bolt is a stainless steel Hex Head general use bolt. yep very strange... ss as well. Looked at lube plan and pdf's for ifo to where this might have come from..... anyone got ideas? Could it have been deliberatly dropped in viaa the oil fill?? TIA Gazza Cannock UK :763:

    Where was the bolt actually found ?  Inside the oil filter or inside the hollow tube w/external threads that the oil filter screws onto ?   I originally thought you meant inside the old oil filter,  but after re-reading your post,  I'm not certain of that.
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