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    immobilizer function
    on: Sep 25, 2023, 02.14 pm
    Sep 25, 2023, 02.14 pm
    I have read many of the topics on this forum concerning the immobilizer. What is not clear to me, is the terms used such as "wont start", "wont function", "wont operate". In my world, those terms are not definitive enough to pursue a diagnostic direction.  When the immobilizer is not properly paired, with the key, the engine "wont start". Does that mean the starter doesn't engage, like the clutch is not pulled in, or does it mean starter engages, engine cranks, but no fire in the hole?  Same with the Triumph Owners book page 25.
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    If the malfunction indicator light flashes when the ignition is switched on, contact an authorised Triumph dealer as soon as possible to have the situation rectified. In these circumstances the engine will not start."   Does "not start" mean no crank, or yes crank but no fire in the hole?  What does "lockout" mean relative to the ECM?
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    Re: immobilizer function
    Reply #1 on: Sep 25, 2023, 09.51 pm
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    If the immobiliser & ECU fail to authenticate the ID chip in the ignition key a host of functions won't operate.

    "Not start" means the ECU will not even allow the starter solenoid to engage and therefore the starter motor won't turn. It also shouldn't allow the fuel rail to pressurise and the injectors to operate.
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    Re: immobilizer function
    Reply #2 on: Sep 26, 2023, 10.09 pm
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    Thank you for your reply. Only the dealer can pair keys, immobilizer, and ECM. Correct?
    What does "lockout" mean relative to the ECM?
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    Re: immobilizer function
    Reply #3 on: Sep 28, 2023, 01.20 am
    Sep 28, 2023, 01.20 am
    I had a spare key made for my top box & gas cap ( no RFID chip inside ).

    I tried starting the bike with this "dummy ( non-RFID ) key".  Everything seemed to power-up when I inserted it and turned it to the "Run" position but the starter wouldn't engage.

    So , I believe you could have an RFID key cloned by a good locksmith.   There is a big locksmith company in Grand Rapids that has an expensive machine that can read the RFID code.  Then they have a new key made by someone else in the country.  It takes a few weeks to get the nrw key after they supply the RFID code.

    So having a new key made isn't as difficult as it is with some other makes of motorcycles.   The new key doesn't need to be "registered" into the immobilizer or ECM, I believe.

    I bet Digital can verify this ( or not ).
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