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    Re: Gear shift lever pivot
    Reply #8 on: Dec 03, 2023, 12.37 pm
    Dec 03, 2023, 12.37 pm
    Coconut :

    Thank you - You are Da Man !

    So, if anyone in the UK orders that part from Motoworks, I would be interested in knowing if it's a curved molded rubber part that is shaped like the Motoworks pic or flat on both sides like the Max BMW BMW PN pic.  Maybe the Motoworks part is a replacement for te BMW part even tho Motoworks calls out the BMW PN in addition to their own PN ( ?? ).
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    Re: Gear shift lever pivot
    Reply #9 on: Dec 04, 2023, 07.49 pm
    Dec 04, 2023, 07.49 pm
    Here you go - it took some digging around in the garage to find them,
    but I bought two sets of these ( four seals ) from Motorworks back in
    November 2020 and paid GBP 7.74 for them including shipping.

    The first Photo shows a comparison of the original Seals removed from my Trophy,
    alongside the spare unused set of "BMW type seals" that I still have.
    Note the smaller size of the BMW type, which appear to be of a sturdier type
    ( of nitrile rubber ? ) than the Triumph type, which seem to be more "foamy"  :033:

    The second and third Photo's are views of each side of the BMW seal type,
    showing a recessed "cup" on one side, with a cylindrical protrusion on the opposite side.

    Comparison :


    BMW type - Recessed cup :


    BMW type - Cylindrical protrusion :


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    Re: Gear shift lever pivot
    Reply #10 on: Dec 04, 2023, 10.01 pm
    Dec 04, 2023, 10.01 pm
    Since I had no seals installed and the ball & sockets showed no sign of corrosion,  I'm going to hold off adding the seals.  My concern is that the seals will add some "drag" while shifting.
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    Re: Gear shift lever pivot
    Reply #11 on: Dec 05, 2023, 08.18 am
    Dec 05, 2023, 08.18 am
    My concern is that the seals will add some "drag" while shifting.

    I'd be surprised if they did - to any extent that could be felt.  :033:

    I have them fitted on mine to help keep any road dirt / grime out of the joint,
    ( if there is any ! ), especially at this time of year when they spread lots of Rock Salt on the road.

    I can't think why the Triumph designers would have included this seal unless there was
    the potential for something to go wrong, such as corrosion etc, without them ?

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    Re: Gear shift lever pivot
    Reply #12 on: Dec 05, 2023, 01.35 pm
    Dec 05, 2023, 01.35 pm
    Thanks for that info Coconut.  BTW, I don't ride my TTSE when there is snow, sand & salt on the road   :002:  It will sit in my storage barn until about the end of March after it starts to warm up a bit here in Michigan.

    Yesterday I checked the Hermy's parts list for all years of the TTSE and that seal is shown in the pics.

    But even tho I'm the second owner, I don't think they were installed on my bike at the factory, which is kinda interesting.  Maybe Triumph didn't install them for the USA market ??

    If I were another TTSE Owner, I'd be more concerned about the dried-up white grease inside the ball & socket than the missing seals.
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    Re: Gear shift lever pivot
    Reply #13 on: Dec 11, 2023, 08.46 pm
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    The truth is that, since I did the operation of placing two needle bearings, it works very well.

    In every way, I insist as always, depending on the type of footwear we carry, it shows an improvement in the gear lever.
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    Re: Gear shift lever pivot
    Reply #14 on: Dec 11, 2023, 10.29 pm
    Dec 11, 2023, 10.29 pm
    I noticed on my '13 when I serviced it and modified the pivot bolt that the felt seal had been torn by the sharp little tab on the linkage retainer, and there's a good chance that your seals had the same happen and finally were torn enough to come off completely.  That little keeper is the culprit and the felt hangs up on it.  The little BMW covers are very flexible rubber and I can't see them adding any restriction to the shift effort.
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