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Offline Mordiglio

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OEM Tyres - Really not that good
« on: December 09, 2013, 11:49:21 am »
Just wondering if anyone is experiencing the same with the OEM Pirelli.
I found they don't inspire much confidence at all, mainly on the wet/damp and cold asphalt.
On corners over 40mph I feel like the front is about to go  :005:
The front is definitely less confidence inspiring than the back.
I've used PR3 for many years (and BT20 -BT21 on a Pan years ago) and the PR3 are miles better than anything else I've ever used.
The bike has 4.5k miles on the clock and the Pirelli still look very good, but I wish I could change them asap (can't afford it right now) with a pair of PR3 or PR4.
If the PR4 are any better than the PR3, I'll be able to get my knee down on ice  :001: :156:

Anyone not too happy with the EM tyres?

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Re: OEM Tyres - Really not that good
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2013, 12:08:00 pm »
no, must confess feel pretty confident with the pirellis, very comparable to the BT23 I've been used to with the ST1100. rode in various conditions from dry to very very wet and never experienced any problem with handling. Guess it's a very personal thing and varies very widely from one rider to the next
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Re: OEM Tyres - Really not that good
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2013, 08:53:56 pm »
I thought the Pirellis handled pretty good.  But I wasn't impressed with the durability.  I switched over to the Michelin PR3.  They handle probably a bit better and certainly wear better
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Re: OEM Tyres - Really not that good
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2013, 10:26:07 am »
I agree. The standard tyres skip on wet white lines and do not handle very well. PR3s however, are cracking. They change the handling and give more feel to the front.
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Re: OEM Tyres - Really not that good
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2013, 05:18:02 pm »
I had the whole bike skip on white lines twice loaded up and with the wife on the back on the same trip, it was only very briefly but that's all it takes.

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Re: OEM Tyres - Really not that good
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2014, 12:22:36 pm »
Coming back from Stoke this morning, in cold and damp conditions, i had the back end spin up a couple of times. The bike felt vague. I'll wait a while and get shot of the Pirelli's and fit some PR3/4's.

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Re: OEM Tyres - Really not that good
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2014, 02:38:28 am »
I noticed the same thing with my bike, same conditions (cold, damp asphalt), while riding home from the dealer. It was the scariest ride I've ever taken. I had the dealer check it and was told that the tires were "cold" and had to "warm up".
 Sounded plausible?
 Couldn't wait to wear them out so I could justify buying anything else.
 After the 500mi. service, the ill handling had vanished??
 My thought is that it isn't a tire issue. It may have been a balance issue as mentioned elsewhere on this forum.
I did a 400mi. ride with temps. of 25-50 degrees f mostly in the mid to upper 20s. Freezing fog elevated speeds.
It was the most relaxed ride I've taken on any bike, any weather.
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Re: OEM Tyres - Really not that good
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2014, 02:45:49 am »
Tires need to be scrubbed in when new.  They are especially slick the first couple of hundred miles.  Even after they have been "broken in" cold tires will handle less well than warm. Rubber, as you might suspect, grips better when warm
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