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One way phone conversation
« on: January 01, 2014, 02:24:30 pm »
So.... went for a little ride yesterday after thinking I had everything synced together. Using iphone to Device 2 (Trophy)
iphone to Zumo 550 (which is hard wired into Trophy 12v and audio)
iphone to USB in glovebox
Sena SMH10 to Headset on Trophy

So I am getting GPS directions, altho not as loud as music or radio, over my Sena headset.
My wife calls and I can hear her but she can't hear me. I call her back thru the Zumo, I can still hear her, but she says she hears nothing, like it is dead, no background noise or anything.
I am pretty sure, before I had the audio cable connected, but everything synced as above, that I did make some phone calls that worked both ways.
Anyone run into this? It is definitely tricky to get all these technology bits working together!

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Re: One way phone conversation
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2014, 03:46:16 pm »
Good luck. I have nearly identical setup, 5s/smh10/zumo390 and I've never found the sweetspot. I'm not at all tech challanged, but its just turned into more of a battle then its worth for me. I know the 390 isn't compatible with the Trophy. Ive run into the same issue as you, one way phone, and I get dropped devices, etc. It seems that the sequence things connect on the network is important. It kind of sucks all the 'convenience' right out of the whole setup. I just leave the trophy out of the mix altogether. Id just be pleased to get phone, music, and navigation through the headset.
As of now, I just run the phone, and tunes to the Sena as I always have. that works for me.
Again, Good luck
Post the solution when you figure it out.
« Last Edit: January 01, 2014, 03:48:54 pm by Briang1234 »
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Re: One way phone conversation
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2014, 03:58:53 pm »
Hey Shyoung1
Before the Trophy, did you have the iphone, zumo, and smh10 all working together? Music, phone, and navigation?
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Re: One way phone conversation
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2014, 05:00:15 pm »
Thanks, Briang1234!

I never used to worry about music, had everything else working before Trophy, plus bike to bike intercom. I think I had music I tried one time, just don't quite remember!

I will continue to experiment!

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Re: One way phone conversation
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2014, 07:08:54 pm »
Hi shyoung1 if I am reading you right it might be that you have the iPhone paired to the bike & to your Zumo 550. Having it paired to both means it is probably confused as to where to deliver output to.

I have a Zumo 660 hard wired to the bike power and audio connector.

My iPhone 5 is connected to the bike via the USB port for control from the audio buttons and to deliver music.

The iPhone 5 is then paired to the bike ONLY via device 1 and I can receive calls with onscreen caller display and accept or reject from handlebar controls.

The bike headset channel is then paired to my Autocom L1 system but for this read you Sena Sh10.

With this arrangement I get full nav instructions, music from iPhone and duplex on the phone for incoming calls. I can't initiate calls, but then while riding I don't want to!

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Re: One way phone conversation
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2014, 06:04:06 am »
I agree with Cropbiker,

You can either Pair your iPhone to the Garmin,
and unpair it as a "Device" on the Trophy,
which should give you full phone function,
but you would lose the other Audio outputs ( radio iPod etc ),

... or delete the Pairing of your iPhone with the Garmin,
and leave it Paired as a "Device" on the Trophy,
and you will get all audio, including incoming calls to your iPhone,
routed your Headset, and be able to answer or reject them
via the Instrument panel display and handlebar controls,
but I don't think you will not be able to initiate a call.


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Re: One way phone conversation
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2014, 01:52:09 pm »
Cropbiker and Coconut,

Reading both posts was giving me great hope, until the final sentences in both, "won't be able to initiate calls".
I understand if some riders don't want to make calls while riding, and it's a personal choice. My 550 is right between the handlebars and requires 4 quick touches to the screen to make a call to someone "last called" or "last received", not looking thru phone book or dialing numbers, and I think that is reasonable.

And, I think it must be possible, I'm so close! She called me from her cell and I could hear her, and I called her back a couple times and I could hear her, but she doesn't hear me.

Let me ask this, has anyone had all the functions, phone, music, radio, XM, Nav directions, AND been able to make outgoing calls? Maybe its not possible. I'm so greedy with this bike, never cared about music before, but now I want it all!

Thanks for everyones input, it is greatly appreciated!

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Re: One way phone conversation
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2014, 02:42:37 pm »
Hi again,

NOTE : First of all make sure that you really DO want to be able to do what you are thinking of.
Making and receiving calls while riding can be very distracting and dangerous !
Is that phone call really worth the risk  :005:

From my understanding of how the Trophy and Garmin audio features work,
I think it should be possible to get more or less what you want,
as long as you don't also want Helmet to Helmet or Bike to Bike Intercom.......

The system is limted by devices only having two Bluetooth channels.

The Sena has two ( I believe ) , the Garmin has two, and the Trophy has two.

Try this - Referring to the instructions for your Garmin and sena devices :

1. Delete the iPhone to Trophy Audio system Bluetooth pairing.
( It may be worth deleting all existing Pairings and starting fresh  :169: )
2. Pair the iPhone to the Garmin Bluetooth
3. Pair the Sena Bluetooth Headset to the Garmin.
4. Pair the Sena Bluetooth Headset to the Trophy Audio system as "Headset 1"

Note that by using up both Sena Headset channels in steps 3 & 4 you will probably lose
any additional Intercom ( Helmet to Helmet, or Bike to Bike ) functionality.

Connect your iPhone using a genuine Apple connector cable to the Glove Box USB port.

You "should" then have  :

  • All iPhone incoming and outgoing phone calls via the Garmin,
    using its Touch screen to answer or make calls.
    Volume control will be via the Garmin volume setting and Sena headset volume controls
  • Sat Nav voice instructions from the Garmin are output via the Audio cable to the Trophy audio system,
    then sent to your Sena Headset by the Trophy Bluetooth
  • Audio from the Trophy radio, or USB audio device ( i.e. the iPod within your iPhone connected to the Glove Box USB port ),
    transmitted from the Trophy audio bluetooth system to your Sena helmet.

I really can't help any more than the above  - let us know if it works,
if not then it will need someone with the same kit as you to help out  :028:


 



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