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Daft question time ...... Shaft drive
« on: January 11, 2014, 08:25:03 PM »
Daft question time  :431:

Wanting to change the oil in the shaft drive oil as not sure if it was changed at 500 mile service ( i wasn't the owner then)
So questions are ......

1... would you ride the bike first to warm the oil up ??

2... how much oil does it take ??

3... i take it that you undo the bottom nut underneath the shaft drive whilst the bike is on the centre stand to drain the oil then replace the nut .... (do you need a new O ring if there is one) then undo the side nut to refill the oil to the level as per triumph handbook

Basically could some one give an idiots guide on the correct procedure 

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Re: Daft question time ...... Shaft drive
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2014, 08:32:21 PM »
Always change oil warm, so yes.... ride it first.

Drain and fill plugs have washers, not o-rings...  I reuse them if I don't have replacements, but do prefer to use new if I can...

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Re: Daft question time ...... Shaft drive
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2014, 08:40:30 PM »
Just my two cents. I always change the final drive oil when I replace the rear tire. My rear tires on my shaft drive bikes usually need replaced pretty close to the suggested final drive oil change intervals so I just made a habit of doing both jobs at the same time. I will probably keep that routine with the Trophy, just works for me. 

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Re: Daft question time ...... Shaft drive
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2014, 08:51:25 PM »
I had a BMW R1150RT with the final drive failure issues, so I change FD fluid every oil change...   I also change oil ever 5K miles on the TT, instead of 10K, just seems too far, but that's been discussed before on this board.  Tires being what they are, you'd be changing every 5-10K anyway!!!

Odd, just put tires on my Chevvy, $500 for 4 tires guaranteed 80,000 miles.   and $300 for 2 tires on the TT with NO mileage warranty I'll be lucky to get 10K miles out of...   But which is more bang for the buck fun wise?.. Ya'll know the answer to that!
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Re: Daft question time ...... Shaft drive
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2014, 10:24:27 PM »
Like your engine oils, it's done warm.
I normally change out the diff oil every second engine oil change.
As with any shaft drive bike, you fill it until the oil starts to overflow out of the filler hole.

I have a good collection of copper washers I use on the sump plugs / bolts.
Just anneal them after every 4+ changes.



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Re: Daft question time ...... Shaft drive
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2014, 01:53:39 AM »
As the others say, warm if possible.  I too change the rear end oil each time I change the engine oil.  Probably excessive as I've changed at 500, 3000, 7500.  I have found that Mobil fully synthetic gear oil makes the rear end run much quieter than any other.  I was surprised at the night and day difference.
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Re: Daft question time ...... Shaft drive
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2014, 02:57:11 AM »
*Originally Posted by Queensland Ken [+]
As with any shaft drive bike, you fill it until the oil starts to overflow out of the filler hole.
Not true with my 1971 BMW R75/5 nor with my 1984 Yamaha Venture. To the filler hole would be way over spec in either of these bikes. Normal full in both these bikes is just a hair over the driveshaft.

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Re: Daft question time ...... Shaft drive
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2014, 03:53:38 AM »
To check the oil level in the final drive unit, remove the filler level plug. Fill with 75W/90 fully  synthetic  hypoid  oil  that  meets specification API Service Level GL5, such as Castrol  SAF-XO  fully  synthetic  hypoid  oil, until the level of oil inside the unit is level with the  bottom  of  the  filler.  Refit  the  plug  and tighten to 18 lbf-ft (25 Nm).
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