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Offline madmechanic

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hi-viz jackets
« on: February 11, 2014, 08:58:09 pm »
Intresting article from  MAG President Ian Mutch who argues hi-vis is an idiotic fad


 Just wondering what anybody else thinks ,
 I wear a  Hein Gericke  full yellow jacket and believe that it does make you more visible and other road users act differently towards you , moveing out of the second lane they are
hogging or move out of the third lane as you approach them , maybe they think you could be police but at least they have seen you and that is what matters is it not ???? :084: :151: :152:

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Re: hi-viz jackets
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2014, 09:13:48 pm »
I like them, sorry but it does make for being seen. And I want to be seen while out there.
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Re: hi-viz jackets
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2014, 01:56:54 am »
I've had friends and coworkers tell me that Im visible...Real visible when Im wearing the Hiviz. In rainy, dark, winter, traffic thats what I want. What some doughball, blogger, MAG president (whatever that is) thinks is pretty irrelevant to me.
I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about.
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Re: hi-viz jackets
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2014, 02:27:05 am »
Been wearing Hi-viz for a few years now, the tin tops where I live still don't see me.

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Couldn't really give a dam what the MAG president thinks  :008:
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Re: hi-viz jackets
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2014, 02:28:09 am »
I understand where the author of the article is coming from when it comes to the fact that meter-readers, garage men, and anyone else that works outside has to "glow".  I think that is stupid, but when riding in early spring and late fall, I choose to wear a yellow jacket because people don't see motorcycles especially during cooler weather.  If the author of the article doesn't like that, tough sh#t (however, I agree that hi-vis should never be mandated - neither should helmets, even tho I will always wear one).

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Re: hi-viz jackets
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2014, 02:52:31 am »
Paving the way to it being mandated to wear Hi-Viz.
Where does he come up with that?

Dogs do chase and bark at me quite a bit, but they seem to do that to all motorcyclists.
It's not the dogs I am worried about, it's that dazed driver who sees something bright and pays attention that really matters.
I can out run a dog, especially on this bike !  :001:

I am not sure why he thinks Hi-Viz would become mandatory when a lot of states are repealing helmet laws.
I would think you would want one of those things on your head !

And I don't care who's responsibility it is to see me, I want to make sure I am seen.
I have had some leather wearers ask me when I was going to get rid of the yellow,
and I assume they meant for me to be more of a "real" biker !

I wear Hi-Viz for one of the same reason I put auxiliary lights on my other motorcycle, To Be Seen.
I don't think the Trophy needs extra lights personally, but if I thought it made me more visible I would add some.
Some bikes use the smallest lights possible just for looks, that does not make sense to me because people do not
pay attention when they drive and if you make it harder for them to see you then you get what you are after I guess,
which is not being seen!

I don't think wearing Hi-Viz should be mandatory either, but don't mock those who do.
It is our choice to wear it as well as ATGATT, a personal preference that makes me comfortable while I am out enjoying myself.

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Re: hi-viz jackets
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2014, 05:27:51 am »

I just read the article - full of irrelevant nonsense  :112:
e.g. What on Earth has a TV presenter on a home make over show
wearing High Viz inside a house got to do with motorcycling ?

The author's personal opinion that he wishes motorcyclists would NOT
wear High Viz, seems to be based on a concern that if too many riders DO,
then it will be made compulsory, coupled with a ridiculous statement that,

…it implicitly transfers responsibility for being seen
from the motorist to the rider."
MY personal opinion on the subject is that I really don't want to rely on
"the motorist" being responsible for seeing me ( whatever I am wearing ),
I would much rather do all I can, to make sure I am seen,
as it's MY life potentially on the line,  so I usually wear some sort of High Viz
in all weather conditions, day & night.

I also added extra lights to the front and rear of my Trophy for much
the same reason, even though the lighting is already very good,
that extra bit of visibility might, just might, save my life one day -
and that's a responsibility I am quite happy to take on board.

As the article spouts Personal opinions, I'll add mine about the author,
Ian Mutch, "President" of the "Motorcycle Action Group" -
which is that he is irresponsible in his attitude towards rider safety
by likening those  who choose to wear High Viz when riding,
as followers of an "idiotic fad"  :172:

Such opinionated articles as this from the "President", don't inspire me
to have any confidence in "MAG" that they are looking after my interests
as a responsible motorcyclist  :110:

For the record, I have NO issues with anyone that does not wear High Viz,
I would not like to see it mandated, and I have no "vested" (  :038: )
interests in promoting High Viz for motorcyclists either ! :008:

« Last Edit: February 12, 2014, 05:38:52 am by Coconut »

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Re: hi-viz jackets
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2014, 06:19:45 am »
It does seem a pathetic attitude from someone supposedly out to further the cause of motorcycling.

I really can't think of a situation where wearing a high viz jacket can in any way have increased the chance of an accident, short of it coming off and tangling in the wheel!

Inversely there are many situations where NOT wearing high viz can have contributed to a situation.

I agree, these things should not be mandated, it should always be rider choice. But provided it is not a distraction I will go with Coconut's approach and do what I can and make sure I do all I can to ensure that the myopic octogenarians in their cages have a good chance of seeing me!!

If you choose not too, thats your call.
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