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Re: 2014 BMW R1200RT meets Triumph's Trophy 1200
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2014, 12:11:28 am »
Without have ridden the RT, seems like fair comments but a bit subjective about which is the best (things like engine character etc).  I would take issue with the low speed comments as I find the Trophy even easier than the ST1100 to do low speed turns.

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Re: 2014 BMW R1200RT meets Triumph's Trophy 1200
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2014, 12:29:09 am »
Interesting comparison here.
I still think dollar for dollar, the Trophy seems to have a distinct advantage.  It is less expensive than the R1200 RT by many thousands.    The last time I looked in the BMW showroom, the RT was approaching 29,000.00 while the trophy  was 23,742.00 out the door. Canadian $.  I will be taking a test ride on the Trophy soon and perhaps selling or trading my 06 K1200 LT.  I plan to lose 200lb. in overall weight.
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Re: 2014 BMW R1200RT meets Triumph's Trophy 1200
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2014, 06:03:13 am »
I haven't ridden the RT so can't comment on its abilities but I have ridden my Trophy 10,000 miles and say the guy's low speed comments are absolutely untrue.  So when you know that at least one statement is invalid you question every other statement made.  So until I do ride the RT I still calling the Trophy the winner.
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Re: 2014 BMW R1200RT meets Triumph's Trophy 1200
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2014, 08:46:32 am »
*Originally Posted by w8d4it [+]
I haven't ridden the RT so can't comment on its abilities but I have ridden my Trophy 10,000 miles and say the guy's low speed comments are absolutely untrue.  So when you know that at least one statement is invalid you question every other statement made.  So until I do ride the RT I still calling the Trophy the winner.
Yeah, with a ~7 gallon fuel tank that's up high and an engine that's also up higher, the TTSE  just has to be top heavy, when compared to the RT.

At least when we look at it! Or even think about it!

But it doesn't feel all that top heavy when I am riding.

But I never was interested in the RT.  I already have a two cylinder BMW. I was interested in the K1600GTL until I heard about the TTSE and slowly lost interest in the K1600. If both were the same price, I would still have the TTSE. The K1600GTL has a lot more power, but the TTSE has more than enough for me, along with better MPG, more miles on a tank, and uses 87, unlike the K1600.

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Re: 2014 BMW R1200RT meets Triumph's Trophy 1200
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2014, 09:21:18 am »
I saw the new RT at the launch event at our local BMW dealership.... Its an accomplished bike... of course it is... it has 10 years or more of development, it should be!

But personally, I don't like the looks.... its angry is the only way I can describe it. Also.... I test rode the previous model and the vibrations on the boxer were just a killer for me. The water cooling may have smoothed some of them, at least accordion to the salesman, but I have never once got off my TTSE with hands buzzing and red like I did after 30 minutes on the old RT and I don't think water cooling can have significantly changed that after all.. it is not water insulated, just cooled!

Then there is the price.... to get the same level of kit is going to cost me several thousand more. No, the trophy wins for me. It has rough edges, its first generation after all and it will get even better with a few more evolutions.

But at the end of the day bikes are very personal... you buy the bike that stirs your soul and suits your ride.... neither are bad bikes, both have things that cold be improved.

A journalist will have to come down on one side or the other but nothing he writes about the TTSE matches my observations of riding it.
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Re: 2014 BMW R1200RT meets Triumph's Trophy 1200
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2014, 02:19:44 pm »
I think the RT versus TT thing is going to turn into another "which oil, filter, tires" are best discussion  :038: so here is my two cents. For me the Trophy is easier to manage at slow speeds than the RT I just came off of. My RT was noticeably more top heavy than my Trophy is. To be fair I haven't ridden the 2014 RT with the new engine. Since the alternator no longer sits high atop the engine it may be true that the top heavy feel has been changed for the better, but I will keep my Trophy.

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Re: 2014 BMW R1200RT meets Triumph's Trophy 1200
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2014, 02:38:25 pm »
It's it interesting to read the article from Bike Social and try and understand where the author is coming from in relation to low speed turning and handling.

When I made the decision to purchase my Trophy, I spent considerable seat time with test rides. One of the key factors between choosing a BMW/Yamaha/Triumph was how it handled through a parking lot and tight turns. Guess what?  The Triumph won!

There are always subjective factors and it appears that those were involved in this article.

The fact that BMW has pushed forward with an enhanced RT is also good...as Triumph will be looking for its next round of enhancements too.
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