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Re: Slipping out of 2nd gear?
« Reply #128 on: February 29, 2020, 12:20:13 AM »
Thanks,  I am guessing air in the system, I'm not losing fluid so I think the seal is ok.  Will inspect it tomorrow just to be sure but I'm setting up to do a reverse bleed with a syringe and tubing

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Re: Slipping out of 2nd gear?
« Reply #129 on: February 29, 2020, 08:52:19 AM »
Check well that everything is in place. Especially the springs that will fit well into your housing, also that the spring screws have given you the torque that Triumph marks.

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Re: Slipping out of 2nd gear?
« Reply #130 on: March 02, 2020, 04:02:17 PM »
I did a back bleed of the system (pushed from the slave to the master cylinders) and that seems to have solved the issue.  Clutch feels good and fully disengages.  While I was playing around I pulled the clutch cover off to ensure the clutch lifter plate was aligned and torqued properly.

Now that I have good disengagement, shifting is super smooth; 1-N-2 shifting is much improved and no popping our of gear.  I will want to watch missed shifts 1-2 as I think that started the issue but I truly think it was the springs on gear change mechanism that made the problem easy to happen.  My opinion on this is based on the stiffness of replacement springs versus the used ones that were on the bike.

I think all you may need are the three new springs and circlips.  Just my 2 cents and I am glad I replaced the gears and shift fork too, allowed me to verify no other damage to the transmission.

All in, including fooling with the clutch is about 9 hours of labor and < $400 in parts/supplies.  My time was more than the shop as I was very diligent in following the manual.

Thanks for all the help in this thread, really was helpful.  If anyone has any questions on my specific repairs please don't hesitate to post here or PM me.

Anyway, back to riding.

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Re: Slipping out of 2nd gear?
« Reply #131 on: March 02, 2020, 04:17:04 PM »
I am very glad that in the end everything has been resolved.

It would be good to place exactly what you changed and with the references and Coconut add it to the common breakdowns.

Thanks to you for sharing it.
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Re: Slipping out of 2nd gear?
« Reply #132 on: March 02, 2020, 07:42:54 PM »
Oh, please put that list together.
Within the next year, I will have to do mine. It's rare/occasional now, but it will get worse.

As a previous Yamaha Venture owner, I want to be prepared(parts, tools & psychologically).
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Re: Slipping out of 2nd gear?
« Reply #133 on: March 02, 2020, 09:50:49 PM »
OK, here is what all I put in.  Prices are list, available on various websites

Qty   Description                   Part No   Unit Price   Area
1   Nut, Clutch, 22mm            T1170106   $9.13    Clutch
1   Washer, C, Clutch            T1179999   $7.93    Clutch
1   Gasket, Front Bevel Box   T1181296   $8.65    Gasket
1   Gasket, Gearchange Cover    T1261426   $6.28    Gasket
1   Gasket, Clutch Cover           T1261430   $9.44    Gasket
1   Spring, Gearchange Return   T1191207   $3.73    Gear Change Mech
1   Detent Wheel                    T1191235   $13.16    Gear Change Mech
1   Detent Arm, Assembly    T1192122   $15.44    Gear Change Mech
1   Spring, Detent, Torsion    T1192123   $2.24    Gear Change Mech
1   Spring, Coil, Pivot Plate   T1192521   $8.65    Gear Change Mech
3   Circlip, Din 471, Dia. 14.0    T3502535   $1.44    Gear Change Mech
1   Restraint, Clutch, V Series   T3880604   $31.93    Tool
1   Gear, 2nd, Output           T1180147   $95.57    Transmission
1   Gear, 6th, Output           T1180191   $100.59    Transmission
1   Fork, Selector, Output    T1195675   $84.30    Transmission
1   Circlip, EXT, 23.5 x 1.2   T3500201   $4.01    Transmission
3   Circlip, 32mm Shaft           T3500270   $5.53    Transmission
3   E-Clip, 13-18                    T3501111   $0.79    Transmission

Attached file is nicely formatted, sorry, didn't want to spend the time here.

Additionally, to back-bleed the clutch hydraulics I purchased a 150ml catheter tip syringe.  Make sure you wash them out as they have some silicon lube to make sliding the plunger easier.

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Re: Slipping out of 2nd gear?
« Reply #134 on: March 02, 2020, 10:31:01 PM »
Dan66, this has been a detail on your part, I'm sure it will help many who have the same problem.

As we would say in Spain: "¡Ha sido todo un gran puntazo!"

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Re: Slipping out of 2nd gear?
« Reply #135 on: March 03, 2020, 08:42:04 AM »
I have now added this problem to the :

HOW TO: Check the most common faults & issues, Page 2 ( E - O ) Topic.

It can be found under the alphabetically ordered Heading of GEARBOX / Slipping out of gear,
with acknowledgements to several Members for the information they have provided.


 



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