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  • Offline homesolutions

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    Trophy 1200, 2003 BHP
    on: Aug 06, 2014, 08.55 pm
    Aug 06, 2014, 08.55 pm
    Can anyone out there tell me if the bhp (108) is measured at the crank?
    I am wondering if I will be able to register my bike in France, their BHP limit is 100!
    So, if it's measured at the crank, all I need to know is how much is lost between crank and rear
    wheel, hopefully 8 BHP!
    If not I will have to look for a detune kit, any ideas?   

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    Re: Trophy 1200, 2003 BHP
    Reply #1 on: Aug 07, 2014, 08.37 am
    Aug 07, 2014, 08.37 am
    It will be at the crank. But, will this help as will they just take whatever the manufacturer's report the power to be and then assume that it's far too dangerous for French roads?

    I've run this generation of Triumphs for years and am not aware that there is any restriction kit available.

    Alternatively, is there an aftermarket intelligence upgrade kit that can be fitted to idiots that came up with the 100 bhp limit in the first place?

    Do I understand correctly that France will be forced to abandon this folly in 2016?

    http://www.motomag.com/Europe-et-moto-le-Parlement-enterre-la-loi-des-100-ch.html

    When they do, upgrade it to full 1200 Daytona spec and unleash the full 147 bhp!  :001:
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    Re: Trophy 1200, 2003 BHP
    Reply #2 on: Aug 07, 2014, 08.48 am
    Aug 07, 2014, 08.48 am
    Hi homesolutions and  :400:  to the Forum, !

    You may or may not realise that this Forum is dedicated to the "new" Trophy model ( 2012 onwards ).

    Everyone is welcome here, and discussions on Triumph Models other than the "new" Trophy can
    ( and should - to avoid any confusion )  be held in this Section :"On Two Wheels - Bikers Chat"

    There is also another Forum dedicated to the previous Trophy Model,
    that you might find interesting here : Triumph Trophy 3 & 4 forum

      :028:


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    Re: Trophy 1200, 2003 BHP
    Reply #3 on: Aug 07, 2014, 09.10 am
    Aug 07, 2014, 09.10 am
    *Originally Posted by RedMerle [+]
      Do I understand correctly that France will be forced to abandon this folly in 2016?
    http://www.motomag.com/Europe-et-moto-le-Parlement-enterre-la-loi-des-100-ch.html
    When they do, upgrade it to full 1200 Daytona spec and unleash the full 147 bhp!  :001:

    Correct, for a change Brussels are bringing us some good, however there will not be any retroactivity to this, which means that if the model was once approved for an output of 100 cv, whereas it originally develops more, you could not bring it back to "full power".
    In other words my TTSE is approved for 100 cv (in reality 106 but let's not start cutting hair) whereas in every other market if gives 134cv out, I will not be allowed to bring it back to full power in 2016 once this law is recalled. If I want to enjoy the full output I will have to buy a new one approved as from the date when the law is recalled.
    Hope I've been clear enough??
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    Re: Trophy 1200, 2003 BHP
    Reply #4 on: Aug 07, 2014, 01.48 pm
    Aug 07, 2014, 01.48 pm
    I assume the law is enforced by limiting HP through the ECU so legal or not, it should be easy to rectify

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    Re: Trophy 1200, 2003 BHP
    Reply #5 on: Aug 07, 2014, 04.17 pm
    Aug 07, 2014, 04.17 pm
    *Originally Posted by enGage [+]
    I assume the law is enforced by limiting HP through the ECU so legal or not, it should be easy to rectify

    yes probably, with running the risk of insurance coverage denial in case of traffic accident, thanks but no thanks (one has to know that for any serious accident involving a motorcycle in France this is one of the very first checks carried out)
    Last Edit: Aug 07, 2014, 04.20 pm by Verdun95
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    Re: Trophy 1200, 2003 BHP
    Reply #6 on: Aug 07, 2014, 04.59 pm
    Aug 07, 2014, 04.59 pm
    Anyway how do you get 2003BHP out of a Trophy that would be an upgrade  :156:

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    Re: Trophy 1200, 2003 BHP
    Reply #7 on: Aug 08, 2014, 08.49 am
    Aug 08, 2014, 08.49 am
    Nice one John  :745: