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Top Box power outlet dead
« on: September 15, 2014, 07:56:08 pm »
After checking this forum in vain for solutions, I hope someone can help with my problem.

Recently I noticed that the power outlet socket in my Trophy top box no longer has power. Since power is still at the connector in the top box carriage, that rules out the fuses, although I did check them with a probe lamp. The rear auxiliary Powerlet outlet also still has power. Apparently the problem may be inside the shell of the top box. Before tearing it apart, I wanted to ask here for any advice.

Since I ordered the top box as part of my launch model Trophy SE, this problem theoretically should still be covered by warranty. However, if the problem is simple to correct, I would like to fix it myself.

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Re: Top Box power outlet dead
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2014, 06:20:32 am »
Hi Don,

As far as I know, from previous posts of members wanting to dis-assemble the top box lower casings,
it is really difficult to do without causing damage. 

The electricial socket "may" be removable from above -
some types can twist in the housing and then be pulled out,
to check if the spade terminal connector on the back has come off,
but I don't have a top box to hand to check this.

Best bet would be to consult the Dealer before the warranty runs out
( which must be pretty soon if its a Launch model ! )

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Re: Top Box power outlet dead
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2014, 06:55:26 am »
Don, I'm pretty sure mine is working fine, but I don't like to use it because whatever I plug into it pops out after a bit of riding, including the dust cap that's attached to it!  Anyone else have that issue?
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Re: Top Box power outlet dead
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2014, 03:15:52 pm »
Yep!  Both of my 12V sockets seem loose, (too big).  It isn't my plugs, because they are stiff going in other things.

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Re: Top Box power outlet dead
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2014, 05:35:52 pm »
*Originally Posted by Coconut [+]
Hi Don,

As far as I know, from previous posts of members wanting to dis-assemble the top box lower casings,
it is really difficult to do without causing damage. 

...

Best bet would be to consult the Dealer before the warranty runs out
( which must be pretty soon if its a Launch model ! )

Cheers  :821:
Thanks for that information, Coconut. I suspected that the top box may be a challenge to open and repair. Since the warranty on my launch kit Trophy actually started on Jan. 3, 2013, I'm hopeful that Triumph will honor it on the top box.

I'll report back when I have further information about the situation.

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Re: Top Box power outlet dead
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2014, 06:44:10 pm »
*Originally Posted by Coconut [+]
As far as I know, from previous posts of members wanting to dis-assemble the top box lower casings,
it is really difficult to do without causing damage.
I disassembled mine to install blinking brake lights and I guess I was lucky. I had no problems at all. And I did check that the voltage was on the connector when I was done.

BTW, IIRC, the engine has to be running to get voltage there.

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Re: Top Box power outlet dead
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2014, 07:42:28 pm »
*Originally Posted by DonTom [+]
I disassembled mine to install blinking brake lights and I guess I was lucky. I had no problems at all. And I did check that the voltage was on the connector when I was done.

BTW, IIRC, the engine has to be running to get voltage there.

-Don-  Reno, NV
Thanks, Don. Could you tell me how to disassemble the top box?  I have been thinking of adding extra lighting also.

Indeed the engine does need to run for power to be fed to the top box as well as to the auxiliary outlet in the tail cone.

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Re: Top Box power outlet dead
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2014, 07:59:10 pm »
*Originally Posted by donmoe [+]
Thanks, Don. Could you tell me how to disassemble the top box?  I have been thinking of adding extra lighting also.

Indeed the engine does need to run for power to be fed to the top box as well as to the auxiliary outlet in the tail cone.

      Don
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I did it several months ago. I think there was something that was a little tricky in reassembly,  but I cannot now remember exactly what it was. But I think it was that the way it seems to want to back together is not what it should be. Anyway, it really wasn't hard to figure out. Sorry I cannot be much help, as I cannot now remember all the details. But wiring for  the added LED  brake lamps was easy to get to from under the topbox bottom cover.

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