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    Major Decision...The Result
    on: Aug 11, 2015, 10.13 pm
    Aug 11, 2015, 10.13 pm
    First off, thanks to everyone for their advice and suggestions re. my Dilly-Dallying over buying a TT12SE.

    Arrived at my local Triumph dealer as arranged this pm and after the initial cursory explanations, off I rode. Within 20 secs I nearly dropped the thing - lordy, but that bike is heavy. Maybe it was after getting off my R1200ST which is very low c.o.g but it was a quick wake up. As was the ferocity of the ride-by-wire throttle! The screen showed the bike was set in 'comfort' mode but after a few miles I realised squishy front forks are something I'd forgotten thanks to so many years with BMW's Telelever set up. Anyhow, out onto the A1 and the engine showed it's true nature, strong, flexible and smooth. But, I have to admit, I missed the sheer urge of my twin...

    Next problem was the seat. Not firm enough. And my back started complaining. I'm 6'3" and moving around to keep comfortable felt odd on a bike meant for big touring miles. Back roads showed it to be perfectly capable of scratching, no understeer front the front even if it did feel slightly disconnected to me. Front screen was excellent - it even stopped my normally noisy flip helmet from being quite so annoying. Even allowed the bass heavy audio to be clearly heard. Pity no DAB radio - I was missing RadMac on BBC 6music!! Steve Wright is no substitute..

    Then head back to the dealers through slow city traffic. Bad heat 'soak' from the engine - again, I'm used to a flat twin - but it would have me arrive at, say, a city destination hotel exhausted. Paddling the bike around in slow moving traffic was a chore. That was the weight again. Must be hard work two up with luggage. Computer did show some deeply impressive mpg figures though.

    I won't be signing on the dotted line but think the issue is with me. I don't need so much bulk..pity Triumph don't make a tourer lite version, say in the mould of new BMW's R1200RS. I felt somehow removed from the experience. I have said I'll go back for a try on an Explorer, we'll see how that goes. In the meantime, I need to try a Guzzi Norge and/or a Stelvio. I have ridden a Honda Crosstourer with DCT box and was very deeply impressed. But big issue: WIRE WHEELS! Ugh!

    Rode home on my 12ST and it never felt more lithe and fun. Now the R1200ST was a huge flop for BMW. I think I've fixed the issues - suspension, the midrange - and as their new R12RS has gone back to regular forks, maybe the best idea is keep mine. After all it's paid for!!!  :431:

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    Re: Major Decision...The Result
    Reply #1 on: Aug 11, 2015, 10.18 pm
    Aug 11, 2015, 10.18 pm
    Test rides will always tell the tale.  Glad you gave it a try, even if it doesn't fit you.
    Ride safe.
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    Re: Major Decision...The Result
    Reply #2 on: Aug 12, 2015, 03.33 am
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    Excellent..................... testing is way to go, especially when making a big purchase

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    Re: Major Decision...The Result
    Reply #3 on: Aug 12, 2015, 05.41 am
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    At least your gave the Trophy a fair chance.  That is all anyone can ask!
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    Re: Major Decision...The Result
    Reply #4 on: Aug 12, 2015, 06.27 am
    Aug 12, 2015, 06.27 am
    Certainly nothing to apologise for... if there was one bike that fit everyone then it would be a sad and boring world....

    Having given things a fair crack of the whip at least you can definitely say you tried.

    Good luck and keep whatever you ride rubber side down! :821:
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    Re: Major Decision...The Result
    Reply #5 on: Aug 12, 2015, 07.45 am
    Aug 12, 2015, 07.45 am
    OH well you gave it a go. She is a big beast but I came from a Goldwing  :007:
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    Re: Major Decision...The Result
    Reply #6 on: Aug 12, 2015, 07.52 am
    Aug 12, 2015, 07.52 am
    Hi Bearhands,

    Thanks for updating us with your experiences.

    Of course NO single motorcycle is going to suit every rider,
    or we'd all be riding the same and that would be quite boring !

    Stay safe - whatever you ride  :028:

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    Re: Major Decision...The Result
    Reply #7 on: Aug 12, 2015, 12.57 pm
    Aug 12, 2015, 12.57 pm
    Can't believe they didn't have the suspension set on Normal.  Did you try adjusting it?

    What seat comes on the UK bikes?  The US bike's seat is definitely firm.  I have a sheepskin pelt on mine. and will probably use an airhawk for touring.

    How much does a R1200ST weigh?  I am not familiar with that model.  I've tried two boxer engines and the vibes were just too much for the price.  Really wanted to like the R1200GS.