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anybody knows this cable colors for alarm installation
« on: October 31, 2015, 09:22:04 am »
hi dudes
me again
and i am finishing my alarm installation but for to finish all i need to know if anybody know
the location and color of any of the following cables
#1: Positive lead wire on fuel pump
#2: Positive lead wire on fuel injection system
#3: Positive wire that goes to the ignition fuse in fuse box. This should be either a 10 or
 15 amp fuse labeled IGN. (Carbureted Bikes Only)
#4: Ground wire from ignition module
#5: Positive wire from ignition module to ignition coil
any of this option will be useful to me
thanks for your help when i will be finish i will upload a how to section
thank you in advance


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Re: anybody knows this cable colors for alarm installation
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2015, 10:13:07 am »
A full wiring diagram is contained within the Service Manual,
which can be purchased through your Dealer, or On-Line through official sources.

As hinted at in your previous posts, be sure of your own capabilities
and knowledge before attempting such connections.

The alarm system you are attempting to fit is not sold as an accessory by Triumph,
but I would still consult your Dealer to find the information you need,
and check whether fitting this alarm might have any effect
on any Warranty that you have on your Trophy.

Cheers  :821:



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Re: anybody knows this cable colors for alarm installation
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2015, 03:11:25 pm »
sincerly i have think about that in lost the warranty
but i can resume this between 2 option
lost my motorcyle or lost the warranty
the choose is obvios and in fact
the original alarm of triumph isnt so well , incredible expensive and poorly
contructed in comparison with scorpio by the way the alarm that i am installing every time show to me the charge of a battery (a capabilitie really useful in the trophy)
perhaps in countries more secure is possible dont take this kind of measure for a bike but where i live is simply essential
i hope to upload futurely the HOW TO about the installation really i think that it will help to other guys  to maintain their trophys secure
cheers
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Re: anybody knows this cable colors for alarm installation
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2015, 02:27:14 am »
If you are looking to splice into the above wires to operate remote engine kill feature, I would suggest using the wires that triumph already provided for this task. They are located on that connector that the factory alarm plugs into, located under the body panel under the driver's seat on the right side. This is what that plug looks like,


 


I've owned many Scorpio Alarms and they are first rate with many more nice features compared to the Triumph DataTool. But I did just installed the DataTool alarm on my TTSE only because it was plug and play and I didn't want to go through the trouble of running wires for the a Scorpio Alarm. I will say the DataTool takes some getting use to, as it arms itself every time you shut the bike down, and this feature can't be changed. I've set the alarm off at least 5 times by accident in the last week.
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Re: anybody knows this cable colors for alarm installation
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2015, 09:23:06 am »
( Datatool ) ..... it arms itself every time you shut the bike down, and this feature can't be changed.
According to the User Instructions for the datatool alarm, ( Page 15 & 16 - Customising the system ),
the system will "passively arm" 45 seconds after the Ignition has been switched off,
but it is possible for the User to set parameters for either Passive Immobiliser only, or Passive full alarm set  :028:


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Re: anybody knows this cable colors for alarm installation
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2015, 02:38:54 pm »
thank you acczj
i will check if work the that in the scorpio ingnition control
by the way sint so complicated to install the scorpio and really i think that have more feature that other alarms
when i will finish the installation (fin now is working very well , but i want to prove ignition controls) ,i will post a how to about the installation of this alarm
i think that one of the best feature is the rfid control and also that everytime display the voltage a thing that is very useful in this motorcycle
thanks dude for your help
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Re: anybody knows this cable colors for alarm installation
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2015, 03:14:33 pm »
*Originally Posted by cisco [+]
hi dudes
me again
and i am finishing my alarm installation but for to finish all i need to know if anybody know
the location and color of any of the following cables
#1: Positive lead wire on fuel pump - Black/Purple
#2: Positive lead wire on fuel injection system - ECU?
#3: Positive wire that goes to the ignition fuse in fuse box. This should be either a 10 or
 15 amp fuse labeled IGN. (Carbureted Bikes Only) - Not used
#4: Ground wire from ignition module - Brown/Pink (coils)
#5: Positive wire from ignition module to ignition coil -Not single coil, it uses individual stick coils
any of this option will be useful to me
thanks for your help when i will be finish i will upload a how to section
thank you in advance
« Last Edit: November 01, 2015, 03:22:38 pm by azgman »
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Re: anybody knows this cable colors for alarm installation
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2015, 12:28:54 am »
*Originally Posted by Coconut [+]
According to the User Instructions for the datatool alarm, ( Page 15 & 16 - Customising the system ),
the system will "passively arm" 45 seconds after the Ignition has been switched off,
but it is possible for the User to set parameters for either Passive Immobiliser only, or Passive full alarm set  :028:


Yes it can be set both ways, but both ways are passive so 45 seconds after the ignition is turned off the alarm arms itself. There is no option to only arm the system when the button on the remote is pushed. So regardless of which option is chosen, Immobilizer or Full Alarm, when the ignition is turned on you have a few seconds before the alarm is going to sound. Unless the remote button is pushed just before turning the ignition on, or it is pushed within the first few seconds of turning the ignition on before the alarm sounds off. I'm going to guess this is some EU requirement for alarm systems over there. I've never owned an alarm like this. I really do like how the Scorpio alarm works and all the nice features it has. I probably should have gone through the effort of installing the Scorpio alarm and still might do it.
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