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Offline Greygoose

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Heated Seat Question
« on: November 11, 2015, 02:42:13 am »
I'm completely new to this heated seat idea and i'm considering sending off my "low" seat to baldwin saddles to have loren do his thing. I've contacted him to discuss whether there would be any additional height added with his modifications and he's assured me that the seat can stay the same height with or without heat. So i'm considering biting the bullet on heat thing.

My questions are about connections.

1. I noticed there seems to be a plug or something for a heated seat in the plastic below the seat. is this an external hook up point for a heated seat?
2. Do those of your with heated seats have a connection of some kind that hangs down from the seat  that you plug in?
3.  is it something you leave plugged in at all times, or do you unplug and tuck under the seat during summer months?
4. does the plug interfere with your legs at complete stops?
5.  Is there some sort of switch on your seat for high/low setting, or are you just "on" when plugged in?

Any pictures you may help would help me get my arms around this......

thanks again for everyone's input into my other issues......6 weeks in and 3,000 miles later, im  lovin this trophy thing.

Greygoose

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Re: Heated Seat Question
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2015, 03:01:32 am »
*Originally Posted by Greygoose [+]
I'm completely new to this heated seat idea and i'm considering sending off my "low" seat to baldwin saddles to have loren do his thing. I've contacted him to discuss whether there would be any additional height added with his modifications and he's assured me that the seat can stay the same height with or without heat. So i'm considering biting the bullet on heat thing.

My questions are about connections.

1. I noticed there seems to be a plug or something for a heated seat in the plastic below the seat. is this an external hook up point for a heated seat?
2. Do those of your with heated seats have a connection of some kind that hangs down from the seat  that you plug in?
3.  is it something you leave plugged in at all times, or do you unplug and tuck under the seat during summer months?
4. does the plug interfere with your legs at complete stops?
5.  Is there some sort of switch on your seat for high/low setting, or are you just "on" when plugged in?

Any pictures you may help would help me get my arms around this......

thanks again for everyone's input into my other issues......6 weeks in and 3,000 miles later, im  lovin this trophy thing.

Greygoose
1 & 2:The heated seat plug is on the bottom,  under the seat,  where it cannot be seen. You only notice it when you remove the seat from the bike. A six pin connector with five used wires (ground, low heat, high heat, low heat icon, high heat icon).

3.& 4: Leave it plugged in all year. There is no reason to remove it ever, unless you wish to remove the seat from the bike for some reason.

5. There will be an added 3 position switch. If you sit in the bike and put your left arm down as straight as possible. Your hand will be at the location of the added switch. Center is off. One side is low and the other is high. I cannot tell you which is which as I am 220 miles from my TTSE and don't remember.

You can change the switch for the heated seat while riding, without looking, by putting your left arm down as straight as possible and then you should be able to feel the switch which is mounted on top of the left fuse cover. It might take a little practice as it isn't quite as easy as I make it sound here.

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Re: Heated Seat Question
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2015, 04:26:06 am »
Also, there is a similar wiring loom for another switch for the pillion passenger seat, except the switch itself is on right side further to the rear.  The existing connectors under the seat and behind the fuse panels may NOT be compatible with a 3rd party seat maker.  Non-Triumph heated seats may rely on a direct connection to your 12V battery, with control switches built in to the seat(s) themselves and thus, no icons will be displayed on your LCD instrument panel.  This is particularly true because Triumph does not disclose how their heated seats are wired up, and as DonTom and I found out the heated seat circuitry wiring is not intuitively obvious how it works.
« Last Edit: November 11, 2015, 04:30:54 am by dsinned »
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Re: Heated Seat Question
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2015, 12:42:47 am »
Do you have any pictures of this connector and where it may be found. I've got the seats off and didn't see anything that resembled something that could be plugged into. do i need to take any plastic of the side of the bike to see what you see?

The guy at baldwin seats is telling me the seat will come with a heater wire harness will have a positive and negative leads that are bare. Does this mean i'd have to run these wires to the battery?

Greygoose
« Last Edit: November 12, 2015, 01:11:32 am by Greygoose »

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Re: Heated Seat Question
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2015, 02:06:00 am »
*Originally Posted by Greygoose [+]
Do you have any pictures of this connector and where it may be found. I've got the seats off and didn't see anything that resembled something that could be plugged into. do i need to take any plastic of the side of the bike to see what you see?

The guy at baldwin seats is telling me the seat will come with a heater wire harness will have a positive and negative leads that are bare. Does this mean i'd have to run these wires to the battery?

Greygoose
If you don't have the Triumph seat installed, you will not have the switch or the connector. I couldn't tell you for sure about the Baldwin seats, but I would think if you go that way, it won't work the same and your heated seat icons won't work, even if activated to work.

I would think dsinned would be able to explain it better, as he installed his own heated seat.  I didn't.

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Re: Heated Seat Question
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2015, 02:23:21 am »
That's the downside of aftermarket heated seats.  Not compatible with the existing connectors on the bike specially for this purpose.  There are two such connectors, one on left hand side just to the rear of the fuse panels.  Those other is on the right hand side, just inside the frame rail under the seat.  Both of these connectors are "capped" (or blanked) off to prevent water intrusion and reserved for future use with Triumph's heated seat(s).  As I recall they are both six circuit connectors, but some positions do not have wires.  The caps are removed when you install the wiring harness, which has three mating connectors, two for those that are capped, and one of the rocker switch to be installed next to the seat.  To see the connector on the left hand side, you'll have to remove the upper trim panel just below the seat covering the fuses. 
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Re: Heated Seat Question
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2015, 04:17:32 am »
sounds like the bottom line is that i would have to run this particular seat straight to battery. 

anyone know the height of the heated seat? is it basically the standard seat height but with heat?

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Re: Heated Seat Question
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2015, 04:39:01 am »
There are two heated seat heights.  I could be wrong, but I think in their lowest position, they are 775 mm (aka "low rider", standard in the U.S.) and 805 mm respectively.
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