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Offline The Colonel

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Starting problem HELP
« on: December 29, 2015, 06:24:36 am »



hi all looking for some help i am on  tour and dropped my bike at standstill on the left hand side whilst engine was running.
All lights are up when i turn the ignition key on but when i hit the starter button it blows fues 2 being 15 amp engine management system.

i have push started the beast to get her going but on stopping once i am back at base i hit the starter button and again it blows fuse 2

One thing we allso noted was at the base of the information panel is four number being 1323

Can anyone offer some advice
I used to jog but the ice cubes kept falling out of my glass !

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Re: Starting problem HELP
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2015, 06:51:58 am »
Hello all problem fixed and my british beast is starting again all good thanks heaps.
I used to jog but the ice cubes kept falling out of my glass !

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Re: Starting problem HELP
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2015, 07:04:32 am »
So Colonel - what did you do to fix it, or do you have a Manservant who did it for you ?
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Re: Starting problem HELP
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2015, 10:58:54 am »
Hi The Colonel,

Glad to hear you got the problem sorted -
it would be useful for our Members to know what the problem was,
what fixed it, and whether you found out what those numbers "1323" meant.

They don't appear to be a Diagnostic Trouble Code ( DTC ) as listed in the Service Manual.

While on the subject of DTC's, whenever you have a problem with your Trophy
it's always worth checking for any DTC's as these can often provide a quick indication
of what has gone wrong, so you can start putting it right again !

DTC's stored in the Trophy ECU can be displayed on the Instrument Panel.

The following Link is for an article that explains how to do this,
and has a Word Document attached to decode the meaning of any Codes that are stored.
( Information contained within the Service Manual ) :
Servicing Data, Reference Info & DTC ( Fault ) Codes :028:

« Last Edit: July 27, 2017, 10:06:37 am by Coconut »

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Re: Starting problem HELP
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2015, 11:28:09 am »
Thanks Gordon3xBBB i got the
Regimental Sar Major to run his eye over the beast.


Coconut i will come back with a reply on what we found in next day or so.
Thank you very much for your fault code information i will check this in the morning and get back to you.
At the moment i have put the beast to bed after a very arduous day.


The Colonel over and out 
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Re: Starting problem HELP
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2015, 03:03:20 pm »
---To be Continued--- ?

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Re: Starting problem HELP
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2016, 04:07:18 am »
Hello all The Colonel here !
just thought i would check in and let you know what occurred  and what we have had to do to  be able to complete our 2000 odd km road trip.
I dropped my bike at a stand still on its left hand side and as it went down the motor was revving like crazy due to the fact that i did not let go of the throttle. (lesson 1)
We managed to find forty strong willed lads and a mobile crane to help lift the beast back up to her rightful position.
The problem from then on was that every time i tried to hit the starter button i blew fuse 15 amp  engine management.
We disconnected the battery and reconnected then tried again the starter button which again blew the fuse.  Advice was sought from the Triumph dealer who said not to  use the start button at all and to push start the beast. With a new fuse fitted she push started ok with the help of the regiment lads. Upon reaching our destination for the night the Regimental Sar Major and i removed fairings and found that the main lead from the starter solenoid to the starter motor was rubbing against the base of the radiator so we covered with tape and re routed the cable away from the radiator.
I thought this was the issue but the RSM worked out that the problem must have been a short in the start switch to solenoid wiring this was causing the fuses to blow.
I dont know if you folk have seen the wiring looms on the Trophy but looking at it we decided to fit a remote starter switch wired to the positive terminal of the battery with a 15 amp fuse the the other wire to the starter solenoid thus bypassing the starter switch altogether.
We placed the remote starter switch in the glove box and since then the bike has started first time every time.
We are still some 500 kms from home and once home will start looking for the short in the starter button wire.
Coconut thanks for the fault code info which was invaluable.

The Colonel will keep you posted
 





























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Re: Starting problem HELP
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2016, 07:38:33 am »
G'day Colonel,

Good to hear the long range patrol continues. I thought as an Aussie you'd use fencing wire to fix the electrical problem  :745: :745: :745: :745: :745: :745: :745:

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