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SE or Standard- thoughts?
« on: February 15, 2016, 07:13:53 am »
Here's a quick quiz, I am pretty well versed in the differences between an SE and a regular Trophy, but I am wondering whether it's worth the extra.

I have the opportunity to purchase a regular, non-SE Trophy for a SIGNIFICANT discount. I don't use Comms much, and I have found electronic suspension a bit of a cursed blessing in the past.

Those that have a standard Trophy, what are your thoughts on the differences between the SE and the regular bike? Where have all the dramas been, and is the stock suspension lacklustre?

Discuss..

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Re: SE or Standard- thoughts?
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2016, 08:07:16 am »
I choose the standard because of having the better suspension IMO and no regrets.
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Re: SE or Standard- thoughts?
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2016, 08:16:02 am »
*Originally Posted by Mustangpilot [+]
I choose the standard because of having the better suspension IMO and no regrets.

Tell me more, the standard has the better suspenders? I note it has adjustable compression and rebound, which is cool.

All I read about is problems with the electrics too. Just not sure.

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Re: SE or Standard- thoughts?
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2016, 08:28:18 am »
My “standard” Trophy came with a few extras thrown in as part of a special offer, these being heated grips, seats, the top box and a Sat Nav. I think that only the heated grips are standard on the SE, and are essential for all year round riding in UK. I don’t think I would really make much use of the radio, though the USB socket in the glove box would make a more useful charging point than the 12v “cigarette lighter” socket that both types have. That just leaves the suspension & TPMS. Well the TPMS can be retro-fitted easily enough if desired. I have considered this, as my most frightening experience on a motorbike was a rear tyre deflation on my old FJ1200 when loaded up with girlfriend & luggage and travelling at 3-figure speeds on the motorway. But in those circumstances, it’s doubtful that I would have noticed the TPMS dash indication before the resultant tank slapper …
Which leaves the suspension. Having done over 10,000 miles since buying my TT last March, I have never touched the suspension settings. I’m sure I would have done if I had the SE, but only because it would have been so easy to do. Most of my riding has been one-up with luggage on a weekly commute to/from work in all weathers, but when the weather is good I often take the minor roads. The standard settings have been great for all I have done, enabling the pegs to touch down on occasion, while recovering well from some of the bigger bumps on the minor roads. My previous bike was a K1200RS on which I had the rear (standard) shock rebuilt, but I still feel that the TT suspension is much better, removing the harshness over smaller road imperfections that the K12 suffered from and not getting out of shape when hitting a big bump while leaned over.
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Re: SE or Standard- thoughts?
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2016, 08:30:20 am »
I Have a standard. I too went away from complicated suspension. If I need to stiffen  :005: then its just a couple of clicks on the knob for the rear and front (two triangular little knobs). Just need to stop to do it whereas the electronic can be done on the fly.

I have also fitted TPMS (aftermarket not Truiumph) and heated grips. Other than that they are the same bike. I have Cruise and stability (traction control) and a large under seat store where the radio goes.

my view was get the toys I wanted and save some dosh. :047:
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Re: SE or Standard- thoughts?
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2016, 08:39:02 am »
*Originally Posted by BandiCoote [+]
Tell me more, the standard has the better suspenders? I note it has adjustable compression and rebound, which is cool.

All I read about is problems with the electrics too. Just not sure.
Before deciding on the non SE, I made long test drives twice on two different SE's. And tried several settings but could not find the right one for my riding style.
On the standard with the rear shock set firmer in preload (3 clicks) and damping (1/2 turn) and the front untouched, I found what I was looking for. The standard suspension can be dialed in with smaller more precise steps IMO.
And I don't miss the other extras like TPMS,radio, bluetooth and usb because I already had that area covered by my GARMIN (with TPMS) and SENA combination.
I did add the heated grips and riders seat  just as Silverstripes did. Also added the R&G crashbars and the REMUS exhaust and still saved big money  :008:
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Re: SE or Standard- thoughts?
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2016, 11:35:24 am »
I bought a 2014 standard leftover last May at a considerable discount. Done 15K Km so far. The standard suspension is very good actually, far better than the standard or ESA suspension of the BMWs I owned. The standard suspension offers all adjustment setting you'll ever need. I've been trying quite some settings, but settled down on a near standard setting in the end(front and rear one click less dampening).

I don't want a radio, I'm very happy with the very large under seat waterproof storage I now have. It will even accommodate a long heavy duty chain lock, reflective vest and OEM tool set.

 The TPMS can be retrofitted, but from what I read the batteries  in the TPMS are sensitive to cold so I won't bother.

I'd go for the standard. I've been commuting for some time now through rain and cold and everything just works!

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Re: SE or Standard- thoughts?
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2016, 07:05:06 pm »
Though mine is a SE, I do understand the motivation of those who choose a standard Trophy. However, no one underlined the fact that the majority still bought the SE while they could have chosen the standerd version at a lower price. It will, on the European continent, be much harder to trade a standerd version in at a reasonable price, I am afraid of. And meanwhile I enjoy all of the extra's the SE offers

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