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Difference Between OEM Alarms
« on: February 18, 2016, 05:07:02 pm »
I'm probably going to fit the OEM alarm, and in looking it up, I notice there are two versions:

Alarm Kit S4 $399
Alarm Kit S4, SRA Approved $340

The SRA Approved one indicated "FR only" which I assume is France? Does anyone know the difference between the two?

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Re: Difference Between OEM Alarms
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2016, 06:41:02 pm »
Does anyone know the difference between the two?

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The Datatool S4 Alarm is the Thatcham Category 1 approved alarm for the Trophy / Trophy SE.

"SRA" Version refers to the French ( and Swiss ) approval process for this alarm.

Datatool News Highlight September 2010
and
SRA Approved Alarm / Immobiliser ( France only )

I have no idea if there is any physical or electrical difference in the two versions,
other than the testing and subsequent approval process.




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Re: Difference Between OEM Alarms
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2016, 07:05:05 pm »
i would look into other alarms than the oem one. by far the most aggravating alarm i have ever used. search for alarms on here.

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Re: Difference Between OEM Alarms
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2016, 10:26:36 am »
The most aggravating feature seems to be "Passive Arming"
where the System automatically arms itself "passively" 45 seconds after switching off the Ignition.
It is factory set to arm the Immobiliser and Ignition Trigger only,
and may or may not be programmed ( depending on Country ) to emit a series of beeps
when the 45 seconds is up, to confirm it has armed.

The factory default can be changed to fully alarm ( includes shock / tilt sensor ) passively after 45 seconds,
but as far as I am aware Passive arming can not be disabled.

This can result in the alarm being activated inadvertently, e.g. after refuelling or a short stop,
if you forget to press the Remote button to disarm the alarm.



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Re: Difference Between OEM Alarms
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2016, 05:13:35 am »
*Originally Posted by Coconut [+]
The most aggravating feature seems to be "Passive Arming"
where the System automatically arms itself "passively" 45 seconds after switching off the Ignition.

I had a car that did this and I had no problem with it.

and may or may not be programmed ( depending on Country ) to emit a series of beeps
when the 45 seconds is up, to confirm it has armed.

Can you set it to beep and boop if it is not set that way when you get it?

The factory default can be changed to fully alarm ( includes shock / tilt sensor ) passively after 45 seconds

I assume changing this is easy?
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Re: Difference Between OEM Alarms
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2016, 09:52:05 am »
Settings can be changed by the User via a sequence of button presses on the Remote.

I don't have access to the Instructions until later,
but I know the User can change the settings for those two types of Passive Arming, not sure about enabling or disabling the auto arming "bleeps".


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Re: Difference Between OEM Alarms
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2016, 01:17:08 pm »
Here's a Link to where you can download the Instructions : Datatool S4 User Guides
( For the English Version select "PDF/S4C1-User-Guide.pdf" ).

The User can Program the settings so that Passive Arming can EITHER be Immobiliser & Ignition Trigger only,
OR Full Passive Arming which also includes movement and shock sensors.

45 Seconds after turning the Ignition OFF, the system will Passively Arm,
and during the last 5 seconds of that period will emit a series of Beeps to indicate that it is Arming,
UNLESS the Remote key fob Grey button has been pressed after turning the Ignition OFF
to Fully Arm the system - before Passive arming has taken to place.

There are no instructions for disabling the Beeps that indicate Passive Arming is taking place.

A Dealer can program the system to emit beeps when the System is Manually Armed / Disarmed,
but this is not permitted within any EU Country.


 



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