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Motorcycle News 2016 tyre test video
« on: March 23, 2016, 08:19:08 pm »
Hey all,
I've just put on my 4th set of Pirelli Angel GT's. Better the devil you know, and all that. :)
And having just seen this video, I'm kind of glad seeing as the other tyre I was considering, the Michelin PR4, came in at 6th place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzcgeHLZMvw
The top 2 tyres in the shootout ended up being Metzelers, which sounds a little dubious given that Metzeler was hosting the day... but at the same time, it WAS a blind test.
Anyway, just thought I'd post this for anyone who was in the market and debating whether or not to change brand.
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Re: Motorcycle News 2016 tyre test video
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2016, 09:59:18 pm »
You beat me to it.  I just saw the vid.  :002:

Surprising they did not report on the Angel GT, even though you can plainly see them on the stack of tires at the beginning of the vid.  :187:  Maybe it has something to do with Pirelli owning Metzeler.  The top 2 tires being Metzeler is already a bit suspicious.  :084:  Crowning the Angel GT on top of them would have made it even more so.  Although, I'll have to say, of all the ST tires I've tried, the Angel GT is my favorite in terms of dry handling and road feel, so maybe the Metzeler corporate cousins are really good too.

Actually, I'm not too surprised.  The PR4 have been receiving a fair bit of online forum feedback as not particularly impressive in performance and feedback.  It is, as MCN said, more of a touring tire.  I had PR3 on my C14 and while they gave great tread life and had excellent wet traction, Michelin's high prices and touring tire character shied me away from buying any more PR3/4's.

My go-to ST tire right now is the T30.  When you figure cost into the equation, Bridgestone is hard to beat.
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Re: Motorcycle News 2016 tyre test video
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2016, 10:07:34 pm »
Your comments re: the PR4 getting negative forum feedback surprise me... seems to me that most of the users (here on the Trophy forum at least) seem to be very much in favour of the PR4's either as a firm second choice after the Pirelli's, or in some instances, as a preferred choice.
I guess each to his own. :)
Maybe riding style (read: aggressiveness) informs a preference for each rider?
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Re: Motorcycle News 2016 tyre test video
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2016, 10:41:56 pm »
What I got from the video was that the more sportier the tyre was the higher the score????? Was that the original brief? Which tyre was the sportiest? They said the Metzeler Z8 is more sports than touring so surely an equal balance would be better?
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Re: Motorcycle News 2016 tyre test video
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2016, 10:43:34 pm »
Makes a lot of sense to me that TTSE riders would find the PR4 very favorable, since it is more of a touring bike.  But as the MCN vid mentioned, lots of riders put ST tires on all sort of bikes, so it's not surprising to hear not-so-favorable reviews.  These MCN boys are sportbike junkies at heart, and they made no bones about being more concerned about "character" of the tire.

BTW, PR4 and Z8 are both OEM tires on '14+ R1200RT, and it is not uncommon to hear owners commenting that they prefer the feel of Z8 over PR4.  No doubt riding style and road conditions have a lot to do with it.

One thing I didn't hear in the MCN test is tread wear.  That is one attribute the Pilot Road series have been known for.
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Re: Motorcycle News 2016 tyre test video
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2016, 11:03:24 pm »
*Originally Posted by Volfy [+]
One thing I didn't hear in the MCN test is tread wear.  That is one attribute the Pilot Road series have been known for.

I'd love to know how tread wear compares between the Pirelli's and the Michelin's.. from someone who has worn out a set of each.
I get 16,000 km out of my Pirelli's and it's nice that that coincides with the service intervals.
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Re: Motorcycle News 2016 tyre test video
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2016, 07:58:22 pm »
That video was nothing more than one man's opinion on which freshly mounted tire was the best over a few miles of riding. Let him put 5000 miles on each set and then come back and tell us what he really thinks. I for one like my tires to last and couldn't care less if I can get any of my touring/sports-touring bikes to handle like a knee dragging, ass hurting, back aching sports bike, by using a certain type of tire. If I wanted a sports bike I would have bought one.

It's much like every motorcycle magazine's review of a new bike. They ride a bike a few miles and usually say how great it is with one or two shortcomings. Even when they do a long term test it isn't for very long. One or two years and less than 15000 miles, all the time while the bike is under warranty and a shop is doing all their maintenance and it cost the journalist nothing. Ride it for 5 years, 2 or 3 years out of warranty, do your own or at least pay for your own maintenance, and then tell me what you really think based on the totality of ownership. Ya, I know it isn't practical for them to do it that way but I wish they would.

Before the age of the internet almost all of what you would know about a new bike came from a few pages of what was written about them in those magazines. Now we have forums like this one where actual owners who actually paid for their bike and pay to maintain it can tell what they really think and why. If it wasn't for this forum I would have never known about Triumph's willingness to replace the cylinder head. Oh how I love the internet.
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Re: Motorcycle News 2016 tyre test video
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2016, 08:53:16 pm »
Well said azccj
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