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Anybody using a stainless oil filter?
« on: May 25, 2016, 06:52:42 pm »
Okay, I realize oil filter discussions generally degenerate into something resembling an oil discussion but here goes!

I've used a K&P Engineering oil filter on my Victory for several years.  I see they have an application for the Trophy.
Anybody using one?
Thoughts or comments on their tech specs, generally?

http://kandpengineering.com/technical-information/

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Re: Anybody using a stainless oil filter?
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2016, 08:04:31 pm »
I wouldn't trust their fitment chart since the Trophy they show is a 955 triple or a 1200 4 cylinder.  Check on one of the parts breakdowns to see if the Tiger 1200 is the same filter as the Trophy and they do have a listing for that bike - the S1 filter.  I wouldn't bet on the S3 fitting since it is shown for different size or configuration from our Trophies.
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Re: Anybody using a stainless oil filter?
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2016, 08:33:06 pm »
From World of Triumph :

Trophy SE Oil Filter Part Number = PFKL2338009

Explorer XC Oil Filter Part Number = PFKL2338009

i.e. the same Oil Filter is used on the Trophy SE and the Explorer XC,
so the "S1 Filter listed by K & P engineering for the Explorer XC should be OK for the Trophy SE  :028:

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Re: Anybody using a stainless oil filter?
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2016, 11:10:27 pm »
Thanks coconut.  Looks rather interesting, but I didn't bother to check the price on them.
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Re: Anybody using a stainless oil filter?
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2016, 02:09:27 am »
I think I paid around $120 for the filter for my Victory.  That was a few years ago, and I just looked and the same plain black stainless filter is $160 now. 

They have several different finishes available and the price goes up from there. 

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Re: Anybody using a stainless oil filter?
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2016, 08:19:05 am »
OUCH !

That'smore than ten times the price of the standard Filter, and you can't even see it !

Maybe if the Oil Filter was exposed to normal view
and you wanted a nice shiny chromed can on display,
but otherwise, what are the benefits to justify the cost ?


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Re: Anybody using a stainless oil filter?
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2016, 01:50:11 pm »
I agree with Coconut on this one. The removal of dirt (particulates) from the oil is what is important in a filter. As such, I prefer a replaceable filter that guarantees any trapped particles are removed from the lubricant stream.

Here is a good filter comparison as of a few years ago...
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Re: Anybody using a stainless oil filter?
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2016, 03:12:26 pm »
Thanks again for the thoughtful replies.  NOT what this thread would have generated on other forums.  :172:

So I drank the proverbial KoolAid once and bought one.   Right or wrong here is what swayed my opinion. 
Given the "facts" may not be factual, right??

-Better filtration and better flow of oil with lower pressure.  Leading to less bypass oil going around the filter.
-No chance of paper filter failure.
-Added magnetic filtration.
-Additional oil cooling.
-Less landfill waste (minor reason for me).

I get that most of this comes from the company that makes the filter.  I'm as big a skeptic as the next guy.
That said, I always use high quality filters (K&N), even in my old farm truck.  I use the high priced factory brand motorcycle oils, etc to give some expectation of protection.  I change my oil more frequently than factory recommendations mainly due to the fact that I do a lot of in town riding.  Plus for the relatively short riding season, I have always changed oil before putting the bike in winter storage; irregardless of when I changed the oil before.

Arguably, much of this may be overkill.  It helps me sleep at night.   

Just to be clear, I'm not trying to persuade anybody one direction or the other.  I'm just curious to hear other opinions.  I'm not an engineer nor did I stay at a Best Western.  :821:



 
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