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  • Offline Michel1960

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    fuel gauge accuracy
    on: Jun 30, 2016, 07.32 pm
    Jun 30, 2016, 07.32 pm
    I always been intrigued that my fuel gauge indicated almost empty but I never put in more than 22 l even though Triumph states it is a 26 liter tank.

    So I decided to do a little test

    1. Fill her right up to the rim

    2. Warning light came real soon I find ( plus it was evening , that light is real bright  :033: )

    3. About 80 km later both the fuel gauge AND the distance to go were indicating ZERO

    4. After zero I continued right on ( having brought a small gas tank with me) and went on for 38 km before fuel starvation !

    5. Put in 4 liters than I brought and added 19 .5 more at a gas station ( I was real close ) , that makes a total of 23,5 liters . Btw I did 525 km on that tank ( pretty good I think )

    Question is where are the other 2,5 liters ?
    Lesson is, dont be so scare when fuel gauge indicates low
    Last Edit: Jun 30, 2016, 08.13 pm by Michel1960
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    Re: fuel gauge accuracy
    Reply #1 on: Jun 30, 2016, 08.09 pm
    Jun 30, 2016, 08.09 pm
    I don't think anyone ever confirmed it, but 2 or 3 years back I recall there being a post
    where it was suggested that the fuel tank capacity for U.S and Canadian markets
    was 6.4 U.S Gallons instead of the usual ( and published ) 6.9 gallons.

    That would certainly explain your "missing" 2.5 litres !

    Perhaps something to do with emissions control, though I can't imagine what ?

    The Tank on U.S models is ( was ? ) certainly different in some way from the UK Spec,
    as it was subject to a Recall on early U.S models that was not applied to U.K models  :084:

    Maybe an email to Triumph asking this very question might provide the answer -
    if it does please share !

    Here's the email address : after.sales@triumph.co.uk

    Cheers  :821:

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    Re: fuel gauge accuracy
    Reply #2 on: Jul 01, 2016, 06.34 am
    Jul 01, 2016, 06.34 am
    *Originally Posted by Michel1960 [+]
    Question is where are the other 2,5 liters ?
    In any place other than Canada and the USA. The TTSE fuel tank spec  for Canada and USA is 6.3 gallons instead of 6.9.

    6.3 US gallons  is 23.84809 liters.

    I am not sure why, but we lose 0.3 gallons in many cycles in the USA. Even with my 2002 Suzuki DR200SE compared to other areas.

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    Re: fuel gauge accuracy
    Reply #3 on: Jul 01, 2016, 03.29 pm
    Jul 01, 2016, 03.29 pm
    Just got an answer from UK aftersales and the say the fuel capacity is 26 liters ( I did mention it was a model sold in Canada)

    So my question remains , where did those 2,5 liters go!?  :084:

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    Re: fuel gauge accuracy
    Reply #4 on: Jul 01, 2016, 04.55 pm
    Jul 01, 2016, 04.55 pm
    Since it is an in tank pump and the fuel is its coolant there is probably no way to completely scavenge the tank.  Doing so would leave the pump exposed and uncooled and you usually leave some clearance from the pickup to the bottom of the tank to allow for settlement of particulates.  These two thing combined probably give you the difference.

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    Re: fuel gauge accuracy
    Reply #5 on: Jul 01, 2016, 05.04 pm
    Jul 01, 2016, 05.04 pm
    *Originally Posted by Michel1960 [+]
    Just got an answer from UK aftersales and the say the fuel capacity is 26 liters ( I did mention it was a model sold in Canada)
    Whoever you talked to was wrong. Page 171 of the USA owner's handbook:"Tank capacity 6.6 US Gallons (25 liters)".  Also, various places on the web say the same for the USA TTSE fuel tank spec:

    Dimensions and Capacities:
    length2235mm
    width handlebars858
    height without mirror1435-1555mm
    seat height770-790mm
    wheelbase1542mm
    rake27.0º
    trail119mm
    tank capacity25l
    pannier capacity31l
    wet weight315 kg


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    Re: fuel gauge accuracy
    Reply #6 on: Jul 01, 2016, 05.09 pm
    Jul 01, 2016, 05.09 pm
    *Originally Posted by DonTom [+]
    In any place other than Canada and the USA. The TTSE fuel tank spec  for Canada and USA is 6.3 gallons instead of 6.9.

    6.3 US gallons  is 23.84809 liters.

    I am not sure why, but we lose 0.3 gallons in many cycles in the USA. Even with my 2002 Suzuki DR200SE compared to other areas.

    -Don-  Reno, NV
    There, I meant 6.6 USA gallons (25L).
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    Re: fuel gauge accuracy
    Reply #7 on: Jul 01, 2016, 06.48 pm
    Jul 01, 2016, 06.48 pm
    *Originally Posted by DonTom [+]
    Whoever you talked to was wrong. Page 171 of the USA owner's handbook:"Tank capacity 6.6 US Gallons (25 liters)".  Also, various places on the web say the same for the USA TTSE fuel tank spec:

    Dimensions and Capacities:
    length2235mm
    width handlebars858
    height without mirror1435-1555mm
    seat height770-790mm
    wheelbase1542mm
    rake27.0º
    trail119mm
    tank capacity25l
    pannier capacity31l
    wet weight315 kg


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    Hey Don , this is a copy of the message I sent and received

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    Hi Mike,
    The fuel tank capacity for your Trophy SE is 26 litres.

     Regards,
     James.

     --------------- Original Message ---------------
     From: michel poulin
     Sent: 30/06/2016 20:27
     To: after.sales@triumph.co.uk
     Subject: Gas tank

     Hello , could you tell me what is the fuel capacity on the Trophy SE  2014 ( sold in Canada) ? thanks a lot

     Mike




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