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    Which Service do i get ?
    on: Jul 25, 2016, 02.49 pm
    Jul 25, 2016, 02.49 pm
    Ok, need some opinions....

    bike is coming up to her 2nd birthday in August, and will have just short of 15k on the clock   (i know, its a low mileage, that's another story.. my employer blocked use of bikes for business miles!)

    So last year I had an "annual service" at about 8.5k

    Now the dilemma.....should i get a 10k service at circa 200  and do the 20k next year.....
    Or,
    am i better off getting the wallet burning 20k service this year for circa 600

    there aren't really any issues other than the usual engine rattle....and either way I would expect a brake fluid change as that is on a 2 yr cycle on the sheet.

    just interested in thoughts from the greater good   :001:

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    Re: Which Service do i get ?
    Reply #1 on: Jul 25, 2016, 07.09 pm
    Jul 25, 2016, 07.09 pm
    The first question to ask yourself is how many miles do you expect to do in the next year?

    If you only expect to do 5-7k miles between now and then I would do another 10k service and do the 20k next year at 20-22k miles.
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    Re: Which Service do i get ?
    Reply #2 on: Jul 25, 2016, 10.03 pm
    Jul 25, 2016, 10.03 pm
    I had to ask myself teh same question recently.  I have become out of sync so I popped into my dealership and explained the situation.  They suggested I go for the 10k service but they would check out the whole bike and it they find anything that needs attention they would let me know and sort it our there and then or I could rebook for a fuller service at a later date.   10K service complete and bike given the all clear.

    Good luck. 

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    Re: Which Service do i get ?
    Reply #3 on: Jul 26, 2016, 07.43 pm
    Jul 26, 2016, 07.43 pm
    The wording of the Trophy Service schedule is as shown below :

    My interpretation of this, is that the Trophy should be serviced every Year,
    and all of the items listed under the "Annual Service" column should be completed.

    IF the motorcycle is ridden to the mileage figures quoted in the next columns,
    ( 10k & 30k, 20k, and 40k ), then the Service items listed under those columns
    should also be completed, as soon as that mileage figure is reached.

    So in the case of a Trophy that had it's 10,000 mile service on 1st January,
    it would be due another "Annual Service" on 1st January the following year,
    unless another 10,000 miles had been ridden prior to that date,
    in which case the 20k service would be due as soon as the 20k had been ridden.

    Example : 10,000 miles ridden in first year - 10,000 mile service completed at the end of that Year.
    If in Year 2 only 5000 miles had been ridden, another Annual Service would be due at the end of the Year
    If at the end of Year 3 another 5000 miles had been ridden then the 20k Service would be due.

    There appears to be no requirement to have the 20k Service completed early,
    just because another year has elapsed since the 10k Service - if the miles haven't been ridden.

    Common sense should dictate, based on how many miles you anticipate riding,
    whether it is worth having an Annual Service if the 20k Service is not far off,
    e.g. you probably wouldn't want an Annual Service at 19,500 miles
    followed by a 20k Service just 500 miles later !

    In the last year you have ridden about 6,500 miles, so an Annual Service is due.

    If you ride at the same rate as last year, your 20k Service should be due in about 9 months.

    Phil's Dealer seems to agree with this interpretation, by carrying out the Annual Service,
    with the addition of checking for anything else needing attention, ( which I would expect at every Service ! )

    Cheers  :821:

    Last Edit: Feb 11, 2021, 01.24 pm by Coconut

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    Re: Which Service do i get ?
    Reply #4 on: Jul 27, 2016, 12.08 am
    Jul 27, 2016, 12.08 am
    I just completed a full 20k service including adjusting the cam phasing. What a PITA! The amount of work that you have to do to get to the valves and then adjust and check, and in my case, readjust and recheck, the valves is ridiculous! Gaining access to get a feeler under the cam lobes is difficult and prone to error; IMHO. This is one area where a BMW RT with it's boxer engine design is far superior. That said, now that I am done, and I took it for a test ride....   :156:

    This is such a time consuming endeavor, I would be shocked if nearly all dealers don't take some shortcuts. There is no way it can be done correctly in the 7.5 hours estimate given by Triumph.

    So in conclusion, do what you want, but the 20k service did make a difference in my case.  If it makes you feel any better my dealer quoted me $1200 for the 20k (916 pounds)
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    Re: Which Service do i get ?
    Reply #5 on: Jul 27, 2016, 03.08 am
    Jul 27, 2016, 03.08 am
    *Originally Posted by azgman [+]
    I just completed a full 20k service including adjusting the cam phasing. What a PITA! The amount of work that you have to do to get to the valves and then adjust and check, and in my case, readjust and recheck, the valves is ridiculous! Gaining access to get a feeler under the cam lobes is difficult and prone to error; IMHO. This is one area where a BMW RT with it's boxer engine design is far superior. That said, now that I am done, and I took it for a test ride....   :156:

    This is such a time consuming endeavor, I would be shocked if nearly all dealers don't take some shortcuts. There is no way it can be done correctly in the 7.5 hours estimate given by Triumph.

    So in conclusion, do what you want, but the 20k service did make a difference in my case.  If it makes you feel any better my dealer quoted me $1200 for the 20k (916 pounds)

    How many valves were out of spec?

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    Re: Which Service do i get ?
    Reply #6 on: Jul 27, 2016, 04.37 am
    Jul 27, 2016, 04.37 am
    The cam phasing was off, so after fixing that, all of the exhaust valves were tight, and 4 of the intake valves were loose. I called both of the local Triumph dealers looking for shims and they both said they don't stock them! I had purchased the "Hot Cams" kit (.05mm increments) from Amazon, so I made do with what I had.
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    Re: Which Service do i get ?
    Reply #7 on: Jul 27, 2016, 08.02 am
    Jul 27, 2016, 08.02 am
    thanks all...you have confirmed my thoughts....so will get the 10k service for now and plan for a 20k next year.

    i agree that they must cut corners somewhere, and if/when they do take the Tupperware off I bet that the planned time doesn't allow also for the crash bars.

    interesting that they have "fixed pricing" at my local, but don't publish these prices like they do for all other makes, I had to call and ask....and of course the 20k will require an additional 1 hour labour and shims if they need adjusting on top of the price.

    i would prefer my local mobile engineer to do it, but he doesn't have enough custom to justify the electronic kit that he would need to do everything properly (his words not mine)