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    Alarm Connector Wiring Query
    on: Aug 21, 2016, 12.06 pm
    Aug 21, 2016, 12.06 pm
    I'm currently doing a few electrical mods while I have the plastics off to fit crash bars.   I've found that the bike comes fitted with a connector with access to all the circuits required by the OEM alarm, and this is currently fitted with a mating connector with two loopbacks so that everything works in the absence of the alarm.

    I am thinking of fitting a cheap motion sensing alarm, just as an extra deterrent, as there is no way I'm paying 295 for the Triumph one, and would like to use this convenient socket.  I have tracked down a supplier of the mating female connector, so just need to be sure of the pin outs so that I can wire it up correctly.   I have found some information regarding the equivalent socket on other models, but not for the Trophy. The best information I have found so far is in post 6 here:  http://www.triumphrat.net/speed-triple-forum/188416-alarm-electrical-wiring-question.html

    Hopefully the alarm wiring is consistent across models, but if anyone can confirm the pin outs on the Trophy are the same I would be very grateful.

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    Fred
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    Re: Alarm Connector Wiring Query
    Reply #1 on: Aug 21, 2016, 02.24 pm
    Aug 21, 2016, 02.24 pm
    Hi fred_jb,

    According to the Service Manual, the wiring connnections to the Alarm socket
    for the Trophy and Trophy SE models are as follows :

    Pin 1 - Not connected
    Pin 2 - Pin 4 & Throttle Stop Switch ( 11 )
    Pin 3 - Cooling Fan Relay ( 1 )
    Pin 4 - Pin 2
    Pin 5 - Start Switch ( 12 )
    Pin 6 - Fuse Box 1 ( Unfused ? )
    Pin 7 - Right Hand Indicators
    Pin 8 - Left Hand Indicators
    Pin 9 - Ground
    Pin 10 - Instrument Assembly ( B15 )
    Pin 11 - Instrument Assembly ( B14 )
    Pin 12 - Ground

    Items in ( brackets ) are the Pin they connect to at "the other end" !

    Cheers  :821:

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    Re: Alarm Connector Wiring Query
    Reply #2 on: Aug 21, 2016, 04.50 pm
    Aug 21, 2016, 04.50 pm
    Thanks Coconut,

    That is very useful, even though it doesn't entirely accord with my earlier information.  I was expecting there to be an input and a return to the ignition circuit which is looped back when no alarm is fitted, but used for the alarm immobiliser when the alarm is fitted.  Could be that the descriptions are deliberately obfuscated or not very explicit for security reasons and do actually perform that function.  Time to get the multimeter out I think!

    Pin 6 should have an unswitched 12V supply to power the alarm, and unless I missed it, the fitting instructions for the Triumph alarm don't mention having to fit a fuse, so that's another thing to check out.  Looks promising though.

    Fred
    Last Edit: Aug 21, 2016, 04.52 pm by fred_jb
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    Re: Alarm Connector Wiring Query
    Reply #3 on: Aug 21, 2016, 07.03 pm
    Aug 21, 2016, 07.03 pm
    Fred, have you already bought this alarm? If not, for about  30 I can point you in the direction of a plug & play one.

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    Re: Alarm Connector Wiring Query
    Reply #4 on: Aug 21, 2016, 09.12 pm
    Aug 21, 2016, 09.12 pm
    No, not bought yet - please tell me more!

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    Re: Alarm Connector Wiring Query
    Reply #5 on: Aug 21, 2016, 09.15 pm
    Aug 21, 2016, 09.15 pm
    On the wiring diagram Pin 6 is connected at the fusebox,
    but not through one of the fuses, so that would agree with your
    comments about an unswitched 12v supply to power the alarm.



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    Re: Alarm Connector Wiring Query
    Reply #6 on: Aug 21, 2016, 09.19 pm
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    *Originally Posted by fred_jb [+]
    No, not bought yet - please tell me more!

    Fred

    http://www.motorbikealarm.co.uk/product-category/motorbike-alarms/  :002:

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    Re: Alarm Connector Wiring Query
    Reply #7 on: Aug 21, 2016, 11.19 pm
    Aug 21, 2016, 11.19 pm
    Thanks.  As it happens the NCS V2 is the same alarm I fitted to my previous bike, so was probably going to get one of these for the Trophy too, as it seemed to work OK, but all suggestions welcome.

    Fred
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