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    WPS Featherweight L-ion battery
    on: Sep 12, 2016, 05.21 pm
    Sep 12, 2016, 05.21 pm
    Has anyone here tried out a WPS Featherweight L-ion battery in their TTSE, and if so, are you pleased with it?

    Edit:  Also, if you have and like it, which model best fits the TTSE?
    Last Edit: Sep 12, 2016, 05.50 pm by Mystical Cat
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    Re: WPS Featherweight L-ion battery
    Reply #1 on: Sep 12, 2016, 05.26 pm
    Sep 12, 2016, 05.26 pm
    Dunno if it's just me but that link isn't opening up.

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    Re: WPS Featherweight L-ion battery
    Reply #2 on: Sep 12, 2016, 05.44 pm
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    Fixed.  Sorry about that.
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    Re: WPS Featherweight L-ion battery
    Reply #3 on: Sep 13, 2016, 05.04 pm
    Sep 13, 2016, 05.04 pm
    Those batteries appear to be Lithium Polymer batteries, the same exact thing in cell phones. The Shorai and others are Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries, a similar, but much different chemistry with benefits for use in motorsports that LiPo batteries do not have. Additionally, LiPo batteries are more susceptible to explosion than Lithium Iron Phosphate during charge as their charge rate has to be much more closely monitored. I also don't see a port on the batteries to maintain even cell voltage when hooked up to an appropriate charger. Generally, you want to use a balancing charger on LiPo batteries.
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    Re: WPS Featherweight L-ion battery
    Reply #4 on: Sep 13, 2016, 06.47 pm
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    Thanks for the info.  I called a local battery dealer and asked if they carry any Lithium Iron batteries, and he said they don't.  I asked if he knows anyone who does and he said nobody he knows in the business will stock them.  I asked why, he said "because they're expensive and dangerous."

    Anyone know why an automotive battery professional would say they're dangerous?  I figure either they really are dangerous, or these people are too embedded into the lead-acid business and fear change.
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    Re: WPS Featherweight L-ion battery
    Reply #5 on: Sep 13, 2016, 07.49 pm
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    There are Positives and Negatives for any type of battery !  :745:

    Lithium Ion ( No "r" ) batteries are potentially dangerous as in some conditions
    they can EXPLODE or generate enough heat to cause a FIRE :005:

    ( Ask anyone that just bought a new Samsung Galaxy Note 7 smartphone ! )

    They are usually perfectly safe.

    They contain circuitry / software to prevent them from overheating, due to being overcharged,
    and one or more separators to prevent the Anode & Cathode from touching
    ( creating an internal short circuit ), but if that circuitry fails, for example due to poor design,
    or suffers physical damage such as when the device is dropped,
    the battery could enter a state of "Thermal Runaway" and might then explode.

    So I guess Motor dealers prefer not take the risk with these relatively "new" types
    of Lithium Ion motorcycle battery, and stick with what they know, and have faith in.

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    Re: WPS Featherweight L-ion battery
    Reply #7 on: Sep 13, 2016, 09.06 pm
    Sep 13, 2016, 09.06 pm
    *Originally Posted by Coconut [+]
    Lithium Ion ( No "r" ) batteries are potentially dangerous as in some conditions
    they can EXPLODE or generate enough heat to cause a FIRE :005:


    I specifically asked about Lithium Iron, and he said "expensive and dangerous" so I said, "Lithium ION batteries can be dangerous, but what about lithium IRON" and he said, "still dangerous, I won't touch'm."
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