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    Final drive oil quantity
    on: Oct 16, 2016, 10.55 pm
    Oct 16, 2016, 10.55 pm
    I did a quick search of this, but didn't find anything that quite applied, so...  My new to me '13 has about 3000 miles, but as it is new to me, I like to go through and check everything.  I changed the oil, and it looked like I probably didn't need to do that.  I opened the fill port for the final drive before I drained it for two reasons.  One, I can check the current quantity.  Two, I can make sure I can open it BEFORE I drain it.  (I haven't gotten this old and not picked up a couple of things along the way. :156:)  So, checking the quantity:  There should be oil right to the base of the fill port.  There wasn't.  In fact, I couldn't even reach the oil.  A little bit of a lump in my throat now.  I pull the drain plug, and a small quantity comes out.  I seal it up and get ready to replenish.  The manual calls for .17 liter.  Being quite challenged with the metric system, I find a converter online and find out that's about 5 & 3/4 oz.  I put that amount in the fill port, and it's not full.  I add another 3 & 1/2 oz till it just starts to dribble out the fill port, for a total of 9 & 1/2 oz.!  Converting back, that's .28 liters.  Did I overfill it???  There's no way you can overfill it, because the manual says the procedure to check it is it should be visible at the bottom of the fill port.  So, is the manual wrong on the quantity?  I measured the oil I drained, and it was about 5 oz, so I figure the mechanic put in what the manual called for and didn't bother to sight check if it was full or not.  Anybody else find this?  Sorry in advance if this is an old topic, but I couldn't find anything on it.

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    Re: Final drive oil quantity
    Reply #1 on: Oct 17, 2016, 12.57 am
    Oct 17, 2016, 12.57 am
    I changed mine at 600 miles and also at every oil change. I fill mine to the bottom of the fill port and at 44,000 miles no issues yet.  When I change the oil it comes out looking almost new so a change may not have been necessary, but it makes me sleep better.

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    Re: Final drive oil quantity
    Reply #2 on: Oct 17, 2016, 04.28 am
    Oct 17, 2016, 04.28 am
    Being an old 'gearhead' type I have a hard time believing I will not change the final drive oil once in a while after my 500 mile service. 
    I would say you did not overfill.  Unless you found a way to do it with the fill/check plug installed already...
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    Re: Final drive oil quantity
    Reply #3 on: Oct 17, 2016, 08.37 am
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    Some how mine had been overfilled, I heard a hiss and oil spilled out of the filler hole.

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    Re: Final drive oil quantity
    Reply #4 on: Oct 17, 2016, 10.19 am
    Oct 17, 2016, 10.19 am
    Jeff,

    I had the same issue as you, the .17L was not enough, I added enough to bring the oil level up to the bottom of the fill hole.

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    Re: Final drive oil quantity
    Reply #5 on: Oct 17, 2016, 10.34 am
    Oct 17, 2016, 10.34 am
    I don't see any reason why you would want the housing to be full of oil as the movement going on in there is going to make sure all the surfaces are getting oil on them.  I would be concerned about overfilling in case the churning and warming up when in operation could then cause enough pressure to blow a seal. 

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    Re: Final drive oil quantity
    Reply #6 on: Oct 17, 2016, 01.20 pm
    Oct 17, 2016, 01.20 pm
    *Originally Posted by fred_jb [+]
    I don't see any reason why you would want the housing to be full of oil as the movement going on in there is going to make sure all the surfaces are getting oil on them.  I would be concerned about overfilling in case the churning and warming up when in operation could then cause enough pressure to blow a seal. 

    Fred

    When my final drive started leaking in MI on a trip from PA to CA I bought a 75/90 sealer and called the dealer to ask the required amount of fluid in the rear end.   They said 198 ccs which equals roughly 7 ozs  (6.7 oz) which is nowhere near the filler hole like we are used to doing with a rear end.    I'm guessing, but probably because of built up pressure as stated above

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    Re: Final drive oil quantity
    Reply #7 on: Oct 17, 2016, 05.25 pm
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    *Originally Posted by fred_jb [+]
    I would be concerned about overfilling in case the churning and warming up when in operation could then cause enough pressure to blow a seal. 

    Fred

    Yeah, I suspect that's what happened on mine, after an hours ride enough pressure built up to force a small amount of oil past a seal. Since replacing the oil with the correct amount I've not seen an leakage etc,... touch wood.  :002:

     



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