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    Select 1st gear. Lever moves down additional inch.
    on: Jan 31, 2017, 10.06 pm
    Jan 31, 2017, 10.06 pm
    Rode off today and instantly sensed something is different. Spongy feeling from front rather than normal feel of road through front wheel. Anyhow, can't explain it better.

    What I then noticed was that when I selected 1st gear, it went into gear OK but instead of selector being firm, i was able to push it further down around an inch or more. Tried 1st gear selection continuously. One time, click into 1st, selector can travel no further. Next time, click into 1st, now selector can continue to travel further.

    Selector pivot  pin appears to have no sideways play.

    Anyone know what is going on??

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    Re: Select 1st gear. Lever moves down additional inch.
    Reply #1 on: Feb 01, 2017, 09.10 am
    Feb 01, 2017, 09.10 am
    My bet is that the shift lever bolt is broken. That is part number 12 here:
    http://www.worldoftriumph.com/triumph_motorcycle_parts_locator.php?block_01=&block_02=100061300-2-2&block_03=621900
    And there are many posts on this forum about broken shift lever and rear brake bolts and how to repair those.
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    Re: Select 1st gear. Lever moves down additional inch.
    Reply #2 on: Feb 01, 2017, 02.31 pm
    Feb 01, 2017, 02.31 pm
    That would be my guess too.  Mine broke.  I had missed a few shifts and just figured I was tired.  Stopped for gas and filled up.  On leaving the gas station I started to shift from first to second and discovered my shift lever was hanging down.
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    Re: Select 1st gear. Lever moves down additional inch.
    Reply #3 on: Feb 01, 2017, 10.14 pm
    Feb 01, 2017, 10.14 pm
    IF the Piivot bolt has NOT broken, then it could be that the upper lever,
    which is "splined" onto the end of the Input shaft, may be loose ( Bolt 13 in the below image )
    allowing it to slip over the splines occasionally, which is easy to check and tighten,
    but if that is OK too, then it will be a more serious problem - possibly bent / worn selector forks  :012:

    Keep us posted  :028:

    Last Edit: Nov 15, 2020, 07.45 pm by Coconut

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    Re: Select 1st gear. Lever moves down additional inch.
    Reply #4 on: Feb 01, 2017, 11.11 pm
    Feb 01, 2017, 11.11 pm
    Thank for suggestions advice. Pretty sure the pivot bolt is ok as lever very firm. I'll have a good look on Saturday, first chance I'll get. Used bike today and had a little difficulty selecting 1st and 2nd. Shift up and down 3rd to 6th was perfectly OK. Will let you know what I find.

    Coconut. I still get trip 2 coming on by default when starting engine. Thought it may be my thick gloves hitting the selector switch by accident but not this. I am sure there must be some way to set trip 1 or trip 2 as the preferred trip.

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    Re: Select 1st gear. Lever moves down additional inch.
    Reply #5 on: Feb 02, 2017, 01.40 am
    Feb 02, 2017, 01.40 am
    Just curious but is this an issue that can affect any model year or is it only certain years ?

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    Re: Select 1st gear. Lever moves down additional inch.
    Reply #6 on: Feb 02, 2017, 11.48 pm
    Feb 02, 2017, 11.48 pm
    check the linkage and make sure the jam nuts are not loose.the rod will unscrew itself and the pedal will hit frame when down shifting

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    Re: Select 1st gear. Lever moves down additional inch.
    Reply #7 on: Feb 02, 2017, 11.59 pm
    Feb 02, 2017, 11.59 pm
    Hmmmm. I doubt it is a fault with the gear lever pivot bolt (you know. The one that breaks!) or linkage "unscrewing" because the info states   "Shift up and down 3rd to 6th was perfectly OK. "
    If it was either of these, all down changes would be affected as well as up changes. I'm thinking that something is going on where the outer selector forks (not the selector forks to move the individual gears into mesh) are not "catching" the selector drum pins. I wonder if just lifting the gear lever slightly, before attempting to change down from 2nd to first would make any difference and show it is a fauly as I have described? Never had one to bits, but if the Trophy follows most modern designs, this will be under the clutch cover and easily accesable or within the gearbox itself. The former is easy to get to, the latter may require some dismantling. Good luck.
    Last Edit: Feb 03, 2017, 12.28 am by 1675