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    Change gears without clutch
    on: Feb 19, 2017, 04.58 pm
    Feb 19, 2017, 04.58 pm
    Hi everyone, have some of you shifted up gears without using the clutch ?
    Just tested it (only for shift-up), and it goes quite smoothly. For sure engine must be at right rpm (I do it around 4000-5000rpm) and road has to be clear as well, but it's pretty comfortable. No negative noise from transmission. In fact, I already tried this on previous bikes (including Explorer XC), and the Trophy is the first one where it goes so easy and smoothly.
    So everything looks ok, but my question is : what kind of impact on the gearbox ? Or on any other component ?
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    Re: Change gears without clutch
    Reply #1 on: Feb 19, 2017, 07.48 pm
    Feb 19, 2017, 07.48 pm
    page 98 of the manual

    1. Gear-change pedal
    Close the throttle while pulling in the
    clutch lever. Change into the next
    higher or lower gear. Open the throttle
    part way, while releasing the clutch
    lever. Always use the clutch when
    changing gear.

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    Re: Change gears without clutch
    Reply #2 on: Feb 19, 2017, 08.18 pm
    Feb 19, 2017, 08.18 pm
    I find that to get the smoothest of gear changes both up or down then only a slight depression of the clutch lever is needed.
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    Re: Change gears without clutch
    Reply #3 on: Feb 19, 2017, 08.29 pm
    Feb 19, 2017, 08.29 pm
    ... but my question is : ...

    My question is WHY do you want to do this ? and what are you hoping to achieve ?

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    Re: Change gears without clutch
    Reply #4 on: Feb 19, 2017, 09.04 pm
    Feb 19, 2017, 09.04 pm
    Gotta be that left hand fatigue thing. :156:
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    Re: Change gears without clutch
    Reply #5 on: Feb 20, 2017, 12.57 am
    Feb 20, 2017, 12.57 am
    On the Goldwing site I am active on this subject came up.  A very highly respected member had a mechanic father who stated that he could ALWAYS tell when a transmission has been shifted regularly without the clutch.  No matter how good and smooth you are, there will always be more stress, and wear, on the gear edges.

    Can you?  Sure.  Should you?  I am gonna say nope.
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    Re: Change gears without clutch
    Reply #6 on: Feb 20, 2017, 01.21 am
    Feb 20, 2017, 01.21 am
    I find that if I apply a little upward or downward pressure on the shift pedal only the tiniest squeeze of the clutch lever is required to shift gears.
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    Re: Change gears without clutch
    Reply #7 on: Feb 20, 2017, 01.29 am
    Feb 20, 2017, 01.29 am
    I'm new to this site but have been riding sport bikes since the 80's.  We frequently use "quickshifters" for up and down shifting without using the clutch.  Back before they were a real thing, you could always tell the bikes that had done it a lot as they would pop out of 1st and 2nd under hard acceleration (after a while).  I know that Triumph has one for other bikes but don't know if they have one for he trophy.  Once a true quick shifter is installed no significant damage seems to occur but if you do it long enough without one, there are typically problems.  That said, it's your bike my friend, ride it the way you want to!

     



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