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    Cruise control observation
    on: Mar 01, 2017, 03.07 am
    Mar 01, 2017, 03.07 am
     This past weekend I went on a ride and as I had the cruise control on I was passed by a car that was going a little faster "I was going 86 mph just 6 mph over " so I had to follow them.
    They were going over 100 mph , I followed but I found out that the cruise wouldn't work over 100 mph it would work at 100 but no faster.
    The dealer told me that it was set up like that.

    Does anyone know if German Trophy's have a higher limit set?
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    Re: Cruise control observation
    Reply #1 on: Mar 01, 2017, 06.24 am
    Mar 01, 2017, 06.24 am
    From the Owners Handbook :

    To activate cruise control, the following conditions have to be met:

    The motorcycle is travelling at a speed between 30 to 100 mph (48 to 160 km/h)

    The motorcycle is in 4th gear or higher

    As far as I am aware this is correct for ALL Trophies.

    It WILL go faster than 100 MPH with the Cruise Control disenagaged !  :169:


    Last Edit: Nov 15, 2020, 07.00 pm by Coconut

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    Re: Cruise control observation
    Reply #2 on: Mar 01, 2017, 07.43 am
    Mar 01, 2017, 07.43 am
    I found this cruise upper limit too whilst riding in Germany.

    I guess the safety zealots regard cruise as fostering inattention and at over 100mph things go wrong fast!  within Europe riding at over 100mph is quite rare so not really an issue.

    I think due to homogenisation all Triumphs sold in Europe will have this upper limit and from what you say in the World.

    I used to ride Harley Davidson Electra Glide Ultras and the European Specification bikes did not have the rear lights in the Tour Pak as in Switzerland you could not have rear lights above a certain height so rather than change the specification by country it was changed by region so none of us in Europe got the Tour Pak tail lights; we could of course buy them and add them ourselves as it was legal in UK.  This meant our lights were removed on the production line in Milwaukee and we added them on receipt of our Euro Spec Bikes at great expense!  Bloody legislators!

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    Re: Cruise control observation
    Reply #3 on: Mar 01, 2017, 05.24 pm
    Mar 01, 2017, 05.24 pm
    I've never tried the cruise above 100mph, but then I've not been to Germany on it yet.

    One issue I have noticed with the cruise is if you "resume" operation when the speed is at (or above) the setting, it takes a while for the system to fully engage. During this time my speed slowly drops forcing me to over-ride with the throttle to maintain speed. It then takes an inordinate amount of time (seemingly) before the system sorts itself out and takes over at the correct speed. This has become so annoying that I tend to "set" rather than "resume" and adjust accordingly. A small gripe I know, but these little things annoy. :013:
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    Re: Cruise control observation
    Reply #4 on: Mar 01, 2017, 08.05 pm
    Mar 01, 2017, 08.05 pm
    Hi,

    unfortunatly the cruise control works in Germany only till 160 km/h or 100 mph.   :161:
    But, as Coconut wrote, without cruise control ....   :306:  :001:


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    Re: Cruise control observation
    Reply #5 on: Mar 01, 2017, 09.14 pm
    Mar 01, 2017, 09.14 pm
    *Originally Posted by ShaunDW [+]
    One issue I have noticed with the cruise is if you "resume" operation when the speed is at (or above) the setting, it takes a while for the system to fully engage. During this time my speed slowly drops forcing me to over-ride with the throttle to maintain speed. It then takes an inordinate amount of time (seemingly) before the system sorts itself out and takes over at the correct speed. This has become so annoying that I tend to "set" rather than "resume" and adjust accordingly. A small gripe I know, but these little things annoy. :013:

    I, too, am somewhat dissatisfied with the cruise control. If I hit resume under the set speed, it will go flying by the set speed by two mph. If I resume above the set speed, it will miss it by two mph slow. Sometimes when it misses, it takes a pretty long while (a minute or so) to come back to set speed. I've never had a cruise control on an automobile "miss" by any amount on a resume, from over or under the set speed.
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    Re: Cruise control observation
    Reply #6 on: Mar 02, 2017, 08.37 am
    Mar 02, 2017, 08.37 am
    Hmm ......  :084:

    I wonder if some of the switches are a little sensitive ?

    The "RES" button is also the "+" button.


    For example, after setting the Cruise Control speed at 70MPH,
    but with it disengaged after slowing down below that speed,
    and the "RES" button is pressed, then the Cruise Control "should" re-engage
    and re-establish the Set Speed of 70 MPH,
    but if the buttton was held in for too long,
    or there were a momentary "double" ( or more ) press of the button,
    that could explain the Cruise being re-engaged ( "RES" on the first press )
    and then re-setting the Set Speed a little higher ( "+" on the second press ). 

    This wouldn't explain missing the Set Speed when decellerating to it though  :084:

    It might be worth trying, when operating the RES button,
    to press it in FIRMLY but BRIEFLY to see if that makes any difference at all.  :033:

    Last Edit: Nov 15, 2020, 06.56 pm by Coconut

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    Re: Cruise control observation
    Reply #7 on: Mar 02, 2017, 12.30 pm
    Mar 02, 2017, 12.30 pm
    I can tell that I am not incrementing the setting from the display. I can also tell that the system hasn't fully "engaged" because the relevant part of the display flashes until the speed is matched to the setting.
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