Powerlet Outlets Not Working

[RC51Ryder]

Guys, I'm completely baffled.  I got a Powerlet to 12v "cigarette lighter" cord so I can charge my phone on those long runs and it worked fine for a few rides but all of a sudden, I'm not getting juice on either of the outlets.  At first, I thought it was the cord so I ordered another one but still no power.  My understanding is the Powerlet outlets go directly to the battery and some even use a battery tender on them.  With my issue, where do you suggest I start looking?  Is there a fuse in between the outlets and the battery?  When mine did work, I noticed it only got power when the bike was running.  Thanks for the help.

[Coconut]

It is ONLY the Socket by the Rider's left knee that is permanently Live,
i.e. Live when the Ignition is switched OFF.

The Top Box socket ( if fitted ) is Live when the Ignition is ON.

The Glove Box and Pillion Accessory Socket ( if fitted ) are Live when the Engine is running.

All sockets are protected by fuses, so check those.

Front Fuse Box - Fuse Number 2 ( 10A ) and 4 ( 20A )

See Pages 80 and 150 of the Ownres Handbook 

[RC51Ryder]

Thanks Coconut - I knew you would have the answers.  I have a tail bag so I was using the rear outlet for charging my phone but it is good to know that the front one is always hot.  I will check the fuses later today and report back.

[Coconut]

I'd suspect that Fuse No.2 ( 10A ) which feeds the Glove Box and Pillion sockets has blown,
and if so you need to check the Phone charging cablethat you have been using
in case it has developed a short circuit causing that Fuse to blow.

The other Fuse mentioned ( No.4 - 20A ) is the one that supplies
the Socket by the Rider's knee, which is always Live,
and also provides Power to the Heated Accessory Relay.

Cheers 

[Collybus]

While we are at it, perhaps someone - hello Coconut - can tell me why all of a sudden the power socket in the glove box is spitting out any plug I put in there. It used to accept a regular power plug snuggly, but now none will stay in. They just pop out. Ideas?

[Coconut]

Sure - Basically because it's an old and poor design !

The Glove box socket ( and Top Box if you have one ) are "Cigar Lighter" type sockets,
adapted from the original type that used to accept, would you believe, a Cigar Lighter !

They are bigger than the two Hella / DIN type sockets by the Riders knee and Pillion seat.

If you try and use a Hella / DIN type plug in a Cigar Lighter socket,
they won't stay in, and even using the correct plug, because the end "+" Tip
is spring loaded, coupled with vibration from the engine & riding, they often shake loose.

I've also noticed that there appear to be two slightly different versions of Cigar Lighter socket -
the one on the Trophy being a couple of Millimetres larger in diameter than other types,
which only exacerbates the problem !

This is why I removed mine, as I only ever used it with a USB Adapter that shook loose,
and replaced it as per this Topic :

Changed the Stock Glove Box Power Socket for Voltmeter with USB Power

[RC51Ryder]

Thanks Coconut for the info.  I checked the fuses and everything was good.  Right when I'm thinking I have a larger issue, turns out that the BRAND NEW phone charger I just purchased was the culprit.  I tried an old charger and everything worked fine.  The front Powerlet outlet stays hot and the rear gets power after startup like it should.  I didn't get a cheap charger so I figured something had to be wrong with the bike.  The Triumph gods will not look kindly at my antics, lol.

Side note, I like your idea about changing the charging adapter up front.  My only problem is the smartphone I have is so large, it won't fit.  If that storage compartment was just a tiny bit bigger, it would be perfect.

[Coconut]

Thanks for the update !

Good to hear that there was nothing wrong with your Trophy,
and at least you've learnt a bit more about it
while finding out where the problem was !