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    Netural switch does not come on.
    on: Oct 10, 2017, 10.56 am
    Oct 10, 2017, 10.56 am
    Hello all, the netural light on my 2 014 Trophy SE does not come on,
    And the motor does not start.  Can anyone tell me where the netural
    switch is and any suggestions what to look for. Thanks Chuck G.

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    Re: Netural switch does not come on.
    Reply #1 on: Oct 10, 2017, 03.21 pm
    Oct 10, 2017, 03.21 pm
    Hi ChuckG,

    First off, a faulty Gear Position Sensor "can" prevent the engine starting
    due to the Safety Interlocks, but you "should" still be able to start the engine
    by holding the clutch IN, and with the Side Stand UP.

    ( The engine will not start unless the clutch is held in when depressing the Starter button,
    and the Gearbox is either in Neutral, or if a Gear is selected, the Side Stand must be UP )

    Basics first ( sorry !)  - make sure the gearbox really IS in Neutral -
    put the bike on the Centre stand, and rotate the rear wheel by hand
    while depressing the Gear Pedal repeatedly downwards until it is in 1st gear.
    You can tell when you hit 1st gear as you will not be able to press the pedal down again !

    Next, raise the Gear pedal slightly to hit Neutral ( rear wheel can be turned by hand ).

    Turn the Ignition ON to see if the Neutral light is on - if it is - problem solved !

    If the Neutral Light is NOT on, and with the Side Stand DOWN,
    hold the Clutch lever IN, and depress the Starter Button.

    If the engine turns over and starts you may have a faulty
    Instrument Panel Neutral Indicator LED ! ( Unlikely ).

    If the engine does not start, put the Side Stand UP, hold the clutch lever IN
    and press the Starter button again.

    If the engine starts, let the clutch out to confirm that Neutral is selected,
    and then lower the side stand - if the engine cuts out,
    you probably have a faulty Gear Position Sensor,
    which is located at the left side of the Trophy immediately in front of the Gearbox input shaft,
    ( obscured from view by the plastic panel carrying the Power socket next to the Riders knee ).




    To get at the Sensor you should ideally remove the left side Fairing,
    but it can be accessed without doing so .....

    1.  Remove small trim piece held in place by 2 pegs into rubber grommets - it just pulls out.



    2.  Remove the exposed Screw ( 5mm hex )




    3.  Remove the other smaller retaining screw ( Easy if Fairing is removed, fiddly if it's not ! )




    4.  Pull the rear edge of the panel carrying the Power socket outwards -
         again there are two pegs located into rubber grommets.



    5.  The Gear Position can now be seen - separate the wiring connector, remove two bolts
         and withdraw the sensor.

    Hope that helps !  :028:

    Cheers  :821:

    Last Edit: Mar 06, 2020, 07.54 pm by Coconut

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    Re: Netural switch does not come on.
    Reply #2 on: Oct 10, 2017, 04.52 pm
    Oct 10, 2017, 04.52 pm
    Thank you, Coconut Iíll try this when I get home from work later.

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    Re: Netural switch does not come on.
    Reply #3 on: Oct 10, 2017, 04.56 pm
    Oct 10, 2017, 04.56 pm
    If it IS faulty, I doubt there will be any serviceable parts of it to get it working again.

    I do know that a number of our Members have had these replaced while still under warranty.

    If you have no warranty and need to buy a new one check here : Bike Bandit

    Cheers,

    Last Edit: Mar 26, 2020, 02.36 pm by Coconut

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    Re: Netural switch does not come on.
    Reply #4 on: Oct 11, 2017, 01.22 am
    Oct 11, 2017, 01.22 am
    Thanks for the info Coconut when I got home I followed your info.and it is a faulty
    Gear Position Sensor. The bike started but when the side stand is put down
    The motor shuts down. The bike is still under  warranty, so now I can at least
    Start it and get it to the dealer. Thanks again. Chuck G 

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    Re: Netural switch does not come on.
    Reply #5 on: Oct 11, 2017, 06.02 am
    Oct 11, 2017, 06.02 am
    Glad to be able to help  :152:

    Let us have an update after the Dealer has sorted it,
    with any further observations that they make.  :028:

    Cheers  :821:

    Last Edit: Mar 06, 2020, 07.59 pm by Coconut

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    Re: Netural switch does not come on.
    Reply #6 on: Oct 11, 2017, 10.43 am
    Oct 11, 2017, 10.43 am
    Yes I was going to let you know what the outcome is when I have it
    Checked out. Thanks again for your help.  Chuck G