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    No change of gear oil needed....?
    on: Jan 08, 2018, 09.40 pm
    Jan 08, 2018, 09.40 pm
    The gear oil of the Trophy has been replaced only once.
    According to the service manual it does not need to be changed anymore.

    Strange.....but true?
    What do you think?

    Other manufactures advice to  replace the gear oil every 20.000 km.



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    Re: No change of gear oil needed....?
    Reply #1 on: Jan 08, 2018, 11.21 pm
    Jan 08, 2018, 11.21 pm
    As it's cheap insurance I'll change mine at every major service.

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    Re: No change of gear oil needed....?
    Reply #2 on: Jan 08, 2018, 11.37 pm
    Jan 08, 2018, 11.37 pm
    I had to buy a bottle of the stuff, so I might as well use it up.

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    Re: No change of gear oil needed....?
    Reply #3 on: Jan 09, 2018, 08.22 am
    Jan 09, 2018, 08.22 am
    It is maybe better to change it every now and then...

    But what is the reason for Triumph not to replace it anymore when it is done ones?

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    Re: No change of gear oil needed....?
    Reply #4 on: Jan 09, 2018, 09.30 am
    Jan 09, 2018, 09.30 am
    Just to clarify - it is the "Fianl Drive" Oil that is scheduled to be replaced
    only at the first 500 mile ( 800 Km ) service. 

    Some Members do change it every year or two for peace of mind,
    though Triumph have obviously decided this is not necessary - for the life of the machine !

    The ENGINE OIL, shoud be replaced every year / 10,000 miles ( 16,000 Km ) - whichever occurs first.

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    Re: No change of gear oil needed....?
    Reply #5 on: Jan 12, 2018, 05.46 pm
    Jan 12, 2018, 05.46 pm
    *Originally Posted by Marcel [+]
    It is maybe better to change it every now and then...

    But what is the reason for Triumph not to replace it anymore when it is done ones?

    Since the rear drive oil never gets contaminated with byproducts of combustion like the engine oil, nor does it see the high temperatures or stresses that the engine oil does, it basically lasts forever. The only reason to change it is to get rid of any metal that may be ground off the gears themselves (which is why you change it at 500 miles).

    That being said, I change it with my engine oil at 5k because it's so easy. It always comes out the same color and viscosity it went in. At this point, I think it's more of a risk that I over-torque one of the bolts or forget to refill it than it breaks down over time.
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    Re: No change of gear oil needed....?
    Reply #6 on: Jan 13, 2018, 04.58 am
    Jan 13, 2018, 04.58 am
    I have done the engine oil at 5k also, but plan to change the final drive oil every major (10k) service or every two major services.  It is cheap and easy, so why not?

    One issue the factory has for doing FFL (fill for life) is because every time the bolts are out, there is the chance of contamination.  Dirt, etc.  The factory assumes if you leave it alone you won't get junk in there on accident. 

    But yeah.  I am a somewhat capable wrencher.  Every 10-20k for me because I can.  Though if I don't, the factory says I will be fine.  I sleep with an easy smile either way.
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    Re: No change of gear oil needed....?
    Reply #7 on: Jan 13, 2018, 03.10 pm
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    *Originally Posted by rpeters549 [+]
    I have done the engine oil at 5k also, but plan to change the final drive oil every major (10k) service or every two major services.  It is cheap and easy, so why not?

    One issue the factory has for doing FFL (fill for life) is because every time the bolts are out, there is the chance of contamination.  Dirt, etc.  The factory assumes if you leave it alone you won't get junk in there on accident. 

    But yeah.  I am a somewhat capable wrencher.  Every 10-20k for me because I can.  Though if I don't, the factory says I will be fine.  I sleep with an easy smile either way.

    Personally I don't believe the issue is about keeping dirt out,....how poor of a 'mechanic' you got to be, if you can't take precautions like that!

    All this sealed for life stuff is done on purpose if you ask me, they just want you to buy an whole new drive shaft or better still, a whole new bike.

     



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