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  • Offline Wilko   gb

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    Binding Brakes
    on: Feb 11, 2018, 02.04 pm
    Feb 11, 2018, 02.04 pm
    Hiya all.

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    I've used the search facility  :153: as that's what it's for, about binding brakes.
    I went out on the bike yesterday, just a couple hundred yards away from the house it felt like I was trying to drive a vehicle with the hand brake on, that's the only way i can describe it.
    I obviously stopped, pushed the bike backwards with difficulty, likewise forward, tried it again backwards, if fact to turn it around to return back home  :233: heading back it felt as if something freed off  :187: so I carried on with my journey and everything felt normal, and worked as normal.
    Now as the bike has to live outdoors, and the last time I used it was two weeks ago, about a 150-200 mile trip, I suspected the pads were binding, a piston was stuck or even some debris between the pad and disk, okay the pads are showing wear and really need replacing, the back disc has an uneven surface, so that will be changed, both the front and back are showing via a vernier gauge 4.7mm so well within the tolerances.
    If i was to strip the calipers do I need any special tools, or is it a relatively straight forward job, setting back up etc  :027:, the other question is, do I use genuine Triumph parts or good quality replacement parts, my brain is saying original, my wallet is saying the latter  :008: 
    Thanks in advance  :028:
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    Re: Binding Brakes
    Reply #1 on: Feb 11, 2018, 02.33 pm
    Feb 11, 2018, 02.33 pm
    DO not ride a TT, but do ride a Kawasaki Concours quite a few of us have had a problem like you are describing, on mine rear brake stuck had to stomp on brake pedal a few times to get to release. Rode to dealer not using rear brake  (mine is a 09 no linked brakes) all I have read about including mine has turned out to be contaminated  brake fluid fouling the ABS pump, quite expensive. Over $1300.00 U.S. just in parts, I had extended warranty so got lucky there.                                            Kawasaki recommends flushing system every two years! Bought mine used so don't know if this was done or not but it will be from now on.

        Good luck
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    Re: Binding Brakes
    Reply #2 on: Feb 11, 2018, 03.35 pm
    Feb 11, 2018, 03.35 pm
    Genuine Triumph Trophy 1215 / SE Front Brake Pads T2022395.......£35.00

    Genuine Triumph Trophy 1215 / SE all years Rear Brake Pads T2025045.......£25.00

    Both from Swindon Motorcycles via Ebay,

     I just need a rear disc now, World of Triumph price £158.14, do the earlier rear disc fit, circa 2002
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    Re: Binding Brakes
    Reply #3 on: Feb 11, 2018, 03.37 pm
    Feb 11, 2018, 03.37 pm
    Hi Wilko -

    Could you tell if it was the front or rear brake(s) that were binding ?

    ( Check your Private Messages ! ).

    No special tools are needed for servicing the Trophy Brakes,
    BUT to be able to Bleed the system properly, the Valves inside the ABS Pump need to be operated.

    This is normally carried out using the Triumph Dealer's Diagnostic program connected up to the Trophy,
    but can also be accomplished by using the after market device "DealerTool"

    Brake Fluid "should" be changed every 2 years regardless.

    If you need complete new Piston and Seal sets :

    Right Caliper : T2022391 - £61.78
    Left Caliper   : T2022392 - £61.78

    Rear Caliper  : T2020050 - £64.22

    Discs and Pads are available from a variety of sources -
    Remember you need two Discs and two sets of pads ( 8 pads in total ) for the front !

    If you're really stuck - I have a spare set of Rear Pads.

    Cheers  :821:

    Last Edit: Mar 22, 2020, 09.46 am by Coconut

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    Re: Binding Brakes
    Reply #4 on: Feb 11, 2018, 04.25 pm
    Feb 11, 2018, 04.25 pm
    I think I paid a little over $21 US for my EBC HH rear pads when I had the wheel off for a tire replacement.  Fronts will need to be changed this year AFTER the 20,000 mile service unless the dealer will let me bring them some EBC pads to install for me at the same time.  They've been pretty good about that sort of thing in the past.
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    Re: Binding Brakes
    Reply #5 on: Feb 11, 2018, 05.48 pm
    Feb 11, 2018, 05.48 pm
    *Originally Posted by Wilko [+]
    Hiya all.

     :148:

    I've used the search facility  :153: as that's what it's for, about binding brakes.
    I went out on the bike yesterday, just a couple hundred yards away from the house it felt like I was trying to drive a vehicle with the hand brake on, that's the only way i can describe it.
    I obviously stopped, pushed the bike backwards with difficulty, likewise forward, tried it again backwards, if fact to turn it around to return back home  :233: heading back it felt as if something freed off  :187: so I carried on with my journey and everything felt normal, and worked as normal.
    Now as the bike has to live outdoors, and the last time I used it was two weeks ago, about a 150-200 mile trip, I suspected the pads were binding, a piston was stuck or even some debris between the pad and disk, okay the pads are showing wear and really need replacing, the back disc has an uneven surface, so that will be changed, both the front and back are showing via a vernier gauge 4.7mm so well within the tolerances.
    If i was to strip the calipers do I need any special tools, or is it a relatively straight forward job, setting back up etc  :027:, the other question is, do I use genuine Triumph parts or good quality replacement parts, my brain is saying original, my wallet is saying the latter  :008: 
    Thanks in advance  :028:

    Are you sure that it wasn't just down to the bike not being used for that long and the fact that it lives outside,......the disks/pads getting soaked, that can seize them up, it's only once you've ridden down the road a fair bit, used the brakes, then they free up.
    I experienced this myself the other week, washed the bike, let it dry then pushed it into the garage and put it on it's center stand, 3 days later I tried to push it off it's stand, front disks/pads were stuck basically.

    Now I always go for a short ride after it's been washed/dried. :002:

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    Re: Binding Brakes
    Reply #6 on: Feb 11, 2018, 06.14 pm
    Feb 11, 2018, 06.14 pm
    *Originally Posted by earthman [+]
    Are you sure that it wasn't just down to the bike not being used for that long and the fact that it lives outside,......the disks/pads getting soaked, that can seize them up, it's only once you've ridden down the road a fair bit, used the brakes, then they free up.
    I experienced this myself the other week, washed the bike, let it dry then pushed it into the garage and put it on it's center stand, 3 days later I tried to push it off it's stand, front disks/pads were stuck basically.

    Now I always go for a short ride after it's been washed/dried. :002:

    Hi Earthman,
    Quite possible, but my last bike had to sit outside and I never experienced that problem, and that was used as and when, god I need a garage again, I hate the bike sitting outside.
    And to answer Coconut's question, basically, I don't know, my suspicion is the rear, I've ordered the pads, I will get a disc asap, i'm not going to replace the pads until I have, the bike will stay where it is until then. 
    Paul Wilko

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    Re: Binding Brakes
    Reply #7 on: Feb 11, 2018, 08.59 pm
    Feb 11, 2018, 08.59 pm
    Paul

    I have experienced a little brake dragging in the past.

    Now about every 5k miles I remove the pads and wash out the calipers with bike cleaner (Muck Off) and then brake cleaner and an old toothbrush, washing out the calipers with a spray bottle. You will be amazed with the crap that comes out.

    Bottom line is this brake dust and road dirt stops the pads from moving, thus inducing some dragging or binding.

    I then rebuild with the same pads if they are ok wear wise, in the same position in the same caliper.

    The difference in the bike free running is amazing and braking much improved.

    Works for me  :028:
    It wasn't me !!

     



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