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    TTSE Fork Seals
    on: Feb 22, 2018, 08.37 am
    Feb 22, 2018, 08.37 am
    Hi all, I have changed the fork seals on my old bikes before, but none of them had electronic suspension.  Do any of you know if there is anything I should be aware of?  Or even how to change them on a Trophy SE with Triumph Electronic Suspension?  However, as I purchased the bike only last September/October from a Triumph showroom and as a Triumph Approved Used with a year's warranty, would the seals be covered by the warranty?
    Just wondering as I had a look yesterday and one of the seals just may be starting to seep a little.
    Many thanks in advance.
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    Re: TTSE Fork Seals
    Reply #1 on: Feb 22, 2018, 04.00 pm
    Feb 22, 2018, 04.00 pm
    I would expect they would be covered under the warranty. Early '13 models had an issue with fork seals.   I believe the electronics are a stepper motor that turns the rebound dampening adjustment, and lives in the cap.  Unfortunately I'm on a trip and don't have the shop manual with me.
    I expect someone who has it to hand ( Coconut? ) will chime in here...
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    Re: TTSE Fork Seals
    Reply #2 on: Feb 22, 2018, 09.23 pm
    Feb 22, 2018, 09.23 pm
    Triumph Warranty Terms and Conditions :
    Within the warranty period, Triumph Motorcycles Ltd warrants the new Triumph motorcycle to be free from any defect in materials used in the manufacture, and/or workmanship at the time of its manufacture.

    Any part found to be defective during this period will be repaired or replaced at the discretion of Triumph Motorcycles Ltd by an authorised Triumph dealer.

    HOWEVER :

    Conditions and Exclusions:

    9. Front fork seals are not covered by this warranty being subject to wear and tear
    (particularly stone damage to inner fork tubes).

    I would ask your Dealer to examine them, and apply for a Warranty replacement,
    though in view of the above, the Claim may be denied !

    If you and up doing the work yourself, I would recommend buying a Service Manual,
    where the procedure is detailed, together with information on the various Triumph Service Tools required.

    Cheers  :821:

    Last Edit: Mar 22, 2020, 09.24 am by Coconut

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    Re: TTSE Fork Seals
    Reply #3 on: Feb 22, 2018, 10.27 pm
    Feb 22, 2018, 10.27 pm
    "Various Triumph service tools required",....I'm hoping that they don't turn out to be expensive or that I can make/use other suitable tools to do this job.

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    Re: TTSE Fork Seals
    Reply #4 on: Feb 23, 2018, 08.21 am
    Feb 23, 2018, 08.21 am
    Information on Service Tools etc from the World of Triumph Web Site :

    T3880643 - Socket - Fork Top Cap, GBP £47.42
    T3880158 - Nylon Fork Support Collet, GBP £33.35
    T3880153 - Support Plate, GBP £31.20
    T3880641 - Fork Seal Installer, GBP £33.90
    T3880642 - Fork Seal Guide / Protector, GBP £38.74
    T3880160 - Fork Filler / Evacuator. GBP £64.99

    T3852790 - Service Manual, GBP £90.89

    Last Edit: Mar 22, 2020, 09.24 am by Coconut

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    Re: TTSE Fork Seals
    Reply #5 on: Feb 23, 2018, 10.15 am
    Feb 23, 2018, 10.15 am
    Hmm, will be interesting to see what others may come up with on making/using to do this job,....you can often find other suitable items in a workshop for collets/supports/drifts etc, owning a small lathe lath & mill certainly gives me a chance of making something from scratch too.

    Their 'evacuator' tool looks like a syringe to me, maybe you could get by with a normal one with a length of pipe on the end? Using another method to measure/insure that the correct amount of oil goes into each fork??

    The 'Top cap socket' socket tool could be a right challenge for me to make, may have to buy that one,.....why couldn't they have used a nut/bolt or torx for that matter!

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    Re: TTSE Fork Seals
    Reply #6 on: Feb 23, 2018, 10.53 pm
    Feb 23, 2018, 10.53 pm
    I have changed the front forks oil but not the seals , as earthman speculates a few simple jigs can be made to help hold the forks , in my case in a Black and Decker adjustable worktop, bought the large socket on ebay along with a cheap syringe and using a hole saw on a block of wood and cutting that in half to support the fork the job was straightforward, didn't do a " how to" because I was not sure how the job would go.

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    Re: TTSE Fork Seals
    Reply #7 on: Feb 24, 2018, 08.17 am
    Feb 24, 2018, 08.17 am
    *Originally Posted by skiprat [+]
    I have changed the front forks oil but not the seals , as earthman speculates a few simple jigs can be made to help hold the forks , in my case in a Black and Decker adjustable worktop, bought the large socket on ebay along with a cheap syringe and using a hole saw on a block of wood and cutting that in half to support the fork the job was straightforward, didn't do a " how to" because I was not sure how the job would go.

    Excellent, so you got a socket for that 3 pointy triangle bolt head on ebay? Got a link to it??