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    Another 2014 head replacement and then some...
    on: Mar 16, 2018, 03.36 am
    Mar 16, 2018, 03.36 am
    So I took my 2014 TTSE in for the 20k service last October, I find out in November that I have a bad head. Then in December I find out Triumph has denied claim for replacement under warranty since I bought it used with only 1 year warranty left (which expired in May of '16) and I didn't have 10k service performed at dealer. So I made a few calls to Triumph USA and they took care of the replacement head as long as I covered the labor for installation. Sounded good to me since the bike was already apart, wasn't until January that I found out you don't get a new head, you get all the parts to build one. Triumph USA said they would talk to the dealer about helping with labor cost.

    So does anyone know how long it takes to build a head? Dealer said it was 9hrs, but only charged me for 6.  :440:

    Then they were supposed to activate heated grip icon, but couldn't do it because they are locked out of the ECM because it was flashed at some point. So no ECM checks or brake fluid changes either.

    So who flashes Triumph ECMs? If I can find out I can get them to activate heated grip icon.

    So I'm going to see if the new dealer tool will do it for me this weekend, just hope I have 2.0 or 2.5 version. It worked to reset service reminder, so fingers crossed!

    Can dealer tool lock Triumph out of ECM? 

    And there went most of the money I saved buying a used one they got in right before I was going to buy a new one.

    But it's still my favorite bike!!  :046:
    Last Edit: Mar 16, 2018, 03.42 am by Byrdock

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    Re: Another 2014 head replacement and then some...
    Reply #1 on: Mar 16, 2018, 06.34 am
    Mar 16, 2018, 06.34 am
    As explained in the Updated DealerTool Thread - Reply #39 , DealerTool cannot "flash" the ECU.

    I believe that a program called TuneECU can do that,
    which comes with warnings about the possibility of causing irrepairable damage,
    but I have no experience of using that device.

    Last Edit: Mar 13, 2020, 08.06 pm by Coconut

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    Re: Another 2014 head replacement and then some...
    Reply #2 on: Mar 16, 2018, 02.48 pm
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    *Originally Posted by Coconut [+]
    As explained in the Updated DealerTool Thread - Reply #39 , DealerTool cannot "flash" the ECU.

    I believe that a program called TuneECU can do that,
    which comes with warnings about the possibility of causing irrepairable damage,
    but I have no experience of using that device.



    Coconut,

    As officially listed in the link below, the Triumph Trophy SE will connect to TuneEcu with bluetooth connection only. Through bluetooth, the ECU can not be flash!   

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tuneecu
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    Re: Another 2014 head replacement and then some...
    Reply #3 on: Mar 16, 2018, 03.07 pm
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    My 2014 TTSE also had the head upgrade done in 2016 at +/-45K.

    At the time, as suggested by the dealer, the main bearings were also change, under warranty. (If they are charging 6hrs, that seems very reasonable) 
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    Re: Another 2014 head replacement and then some...
    Reply #4 on: Mar 16, 2018, 04.11 pm
    Mar 16, 2018, 04.11 pm
    Sounds like the moral of this story is: get the ECM of any used vehicle checked before you buy! Probably not necessary on a Nissan Altima, but motorcycles, performance vehicles, etc....probably better to spend the money upfront for the diagnostics and if something is out of warranty/changed the price can be taken into consideration.

    Not something I would normally think about or consider, but after reading this thread, I will!

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    Re: Another 2014 head replacement and then some...
    Reply #5 on: Mar 16, 2018, 10.38 pm
    Mar 16, 2018, 10.38 pm
    Over a year ago after the TPMS senders batteries had failed I put the bike into a dealer to have the TPMS switched off, £40 later with the bike returned and an explanation that they were not able to turn off the TPMS without a full morning in the workshop with the ECU on their computer and no guarantee of success I left it at that.Last month at a different dealer and 20 mins in the workshop the TPMS was completely removed, invoice reads TPMS switched off and software re installed
     So there are some dealers and other dealers.

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    Re: Another 2014 head replacement and then some...
    Reply #6 on: Mar 17, 2018, 01.58 am
    Mar 17, 2018, 01.58 am
    Could the original dealer have flashed the ECM and locked it?
    Does Triumph have flashes for the TTSE, like the TOR for other models?

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    Re: Another 2014 head replacement and then some...
    Reply #7 on: Mar 17, 2018, 09.09 am
    Mar 17, 2018, 09.09 am
    Messing around with ECU's is something that scares me, when you 'flash' one on a vehicle, are you trying to get it to how it were when it left the factory basically?

    A friend of mine who knows far more about mobile phones than I said that he's 'rooted' (is that similar to flash?) a few phones over the years but sometimes it doesn't work, you end up with an expensive brick basically.

    I dunno, give me mechanical things that I can actually see/touch, I have far more tools and knowledge for those.