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  • Offline jaapvanthoff   nl

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    How can I get the easiest access to the ignition coils
    on: Jun 06, 2018, 06.37 pm
    Jun 06, 2018, 06.37 pm
    Concerns a Trophy 1200;

    How can I get the easiest access to the ignition coils, more specifically the cabling to the coils?
    I want to mount a quick shifter, but to apply it, the ignition must be interrupted.
    This is done by briefly closing the ignition coil + input.
    To disassemble the entire fairring without a plan may not be the best idea.

    Does a Haynes book exist, just like for most cars?

    Who can help me with advice?
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    Re: How can I get the easiest access to the ignition coils
    Reply #1 on: Jun 06, 2018, 07.25 pm
    Jun 06, 2018, 07.25 pm
    There is no "Haynes" Manual for the latest Trophy Model.

    Triumph sell a paper version of the Service Manual.

    There are no official electronic versions of the Service Manual.
    Any that you may find will be in breach of Triumph Copyright.

    The Trophy has "Plug Top" coils, directly above
    each of the 3 Spark Plugs, in the Cylinder Head cover.

    To access them you would need to :

    Remove the Fuel Tank, ( after Fairing Removal )
    and Remove the Airbox.

    The Ignition coils are controlled by the Main ECU.

    There is also a Wiring Diagram in the Service Manual.

    Fuse No.2 of the Rear Fuse Box provides Power
    via the Engine Management Relay, to the Coils,
    ( and also to other consumers such as the Secondary Air Solenoid,
    Cooling Fan Relay, and Oxygen Sensor ), using Brown wires with a Pink stripe.

    The Engine Management Relay is on the left side of the Trophy,
    in the Front Bank of four Relays, where it is the Rear Right Relay.

    The other side of the Coils are connected independently
    to the main Engine Control Module ( ECM ) using wires coloured :

    Green with Pink stripe ( Coil 1 ),
    Green with Purple stripe ( Coil 2 ), and
    Green with Black stripe ( Coil 3 )

    Hope that helps  :028:

    Cheers  :821:




     
    Last Edit: Mar 12, 2020, 06.02 pm by Coconut

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    Re: How can I get the easiest access to the ignition coils
    Reply #2 on: Jun 06, 2018, 08.12 pm
    Jun 06, 2018, 08.12 pm
    Hallo Coconut. Thanks for your replay.

    This is not I hoped for:
    Remove the Fuel Tank, ( after Fairing Removal ) and Remove the Airbox.



    The Engine Management Relay is on the left side of the Trophy,
    in the Front Bank of four Relays, where it is the Rear Right Relay.



    If I make an interruption in the power line after the relay to the coils, the effect will be the same?

    Dissembling the complete fairing is not a job you can do between breakfast and lunch.
    Stupid investment.
    An the investment is now on the kitchen table.
    :157:
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    Re: How can I get the easiest access to the ignition coils
    Reply #3 on: Jun 06, 2018, 08.52 pm
    Jun 06, 2018, 08.52 pm
    I wouldn't break into the wiring at the Engine Management Relay -
    as stated, it also provides power to other things, and you will be interrupting those,
    which the main ECU may not like !

    You probably need to access the wires closer to the Coils.

    There may well be a Multi-Plu connector under the Tank somewhere
    that feeds to each of the Coils, and is after the take off for those other components,
    but I have not had the Tank off my Trophy yet, so I cannot tell you where that might be !

    If I get chance I'll have another read through the Service Manual to see if I can find out,
    but hopefully someone else on the Forum will know, as it may be a few days before I can reply again !

    Cheers,





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    Re: How can I get the easiest access to the ignition coils
    Reply #4 on: Jan 12, 2019, 06.16 pm
    Jan 12, 2019, 06.16 pm
    Hope its OK to but in but I have the bike stripped down for renewing the air filter and want to check / renew the plugs but cant seem to find in the manual where / how to remove the coils. Can you advise....thanks.

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    Re: How can I get the easiest access to the ignition coils
    Reply #5 on: Jan 12, 2019, 06.40 pm
    Jan 12, 2019, 06.40 pm
    It's described in the Service Manual Page 3.5 in the Cylinder Head Chapter.

    It doesn't give a huge amount of detailed information,
    but as you've already got the Bike stripped down to change the Air Filter,
    it seems as though you're almost there :



    Cheers  :821:

    Last Edit: Jan 29, 2020, 07.08 pm by Coconut

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    Re: How can I get the easiest access to the ignition coils
    Reply #6 on: Jan 12, 2019, 07.36 pm
    Jan 12, 2019, 07.36 pm
    You just grab the top and pull hard.  It takes a fair bit of effort to pull them off and put them back on.

    You can see the center spark plug cap to the far right in this picture.



    Here's a close up view, cylinder 2 and 3 are circled, 1 is behind the tank support.

    Last Edit: Jan 12, 2019, 07.48 pm by Ernest T

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    Re: How can I get the easiest access to the ignition coils
    Reply #7 on: Jan 13, 2019, 12.04 am
    Jan 13, 2019, 12.04 am
    I'm really sorry to ask this question. BUT.....
    Why do you want to install a quickshifter?

     



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