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    Camshaft timing check/adjust now done at 10000 miles! ?
    on: Aug 06, 2018, 12.54 pm
    Aug 06, 2018, 12.54 pm
    Just been to my local dealer to order some parts/tools, got talking about the 20K timing check, then he shows me a service sheet that lists that that should be done at 10000 miles. :005:

    OK, this sheet did have 'Tiger' printed at the bottom but he agreed that it is the same engine,....he couldn't explain it either. :187:

    Anyone know anything about this?? 

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    Re: Camshaft timing check/adjust now done at 10000 miles! ?
    Reply #1 on: Aug 07, 2018, 09.08 am
    Aug 07, 2018, 09.08 am
    The Owners Handbook ( Versions 1 & 2 ) and the Service Manual all show
    "Camshaft Timing - Check/Adjust" to be carried out at 20,000 miles ( only ).

    I just checked the Service Sheet that I was given with my first Annual Service,
    which is Titled,
    "SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE CHECK SHEET
    ( all models with 10,000 miles (16,000 km) service intervals)".

    It is marked as "Issue 19" and is dated 05.2017.
    While being a generic Form for several Models,
    there are Sections covering processes that are Model Specific where relevant,
    which include the Trophy Model, so it is definitely the correct Sheet !

    Under the Section for "Engine : Camshaft timing - check/adjust",
    it is listed to be checked at 20,000 miles not 10,000 miles.

    ( It does also indicate a 40,000 mile check, but as above,
    the Model Specific Handbooks state 20,000 miles ONLY ).

    I would go with information provided that covers the Model in question ( Trophy ),
    rather than for a different Model ( Tiger ) even though it "may" have similarities.
    but may also be out of data and/or have such discrepancies.

    See if you can find the Issue date for the "Tiger" Service sheet you were shown,
    as it may well have been superseded by the above, possibly because it contained such errors !

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    Last Edit: Feb 27, 2020, 07.15 pm by Coconut

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    Re: Camshaft timing check/adjust now done at 10000 miles! ?
    Reply #2 on: Aug 07, 2018, 11.23 am
    Aug 07, 2018, 11.23 am
    He kept that service sheet so I can't tell you the date I'm afraid.

    I'm just wondering if Triumph now state 10k miles, possibly due to Tiger owners finding out that their valves have burnt out too?

    I maybe totally wrong but I can't see any difference with the valve train, if it's now 10k for the Tiger 1215 lump then it should be the same for the Trophy surely!

    The fact that two Trophy owners have recently reported burnt out valves makes me suspicious too.

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    Re: Camshaft timing check/adjust now done at 10000 miles! ?
    Reply #3 on: Aug 07, 2018, 11.45 am
    Aug 07, 2018, 11.45 am
    In that case you could ask Triumph directly,
    pointing out what you have reported here  :

    E Mail : after.sales@triumph.co.uk

    ... and let us know what they say !  :169:   :028:

    Last Edit: Feb 27, 2020, 07.14 pm by Coconut

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    Re: Camshaft timing check/adjust now done at 10000 miles! ?
    Reply #4 on: Aug 07, 2018, 01.52 pm
    Aug 07, 2018, 01.52 pm
    Will do, I'll be amazed if I get a reply though.

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    Re: Camshaft timing check/adjust now done at 10000 miles! ?
    Reply #5 on: Aug 08, 2018, 02.55 am
    Aug 08, 2018, 02.55 am
    *Originally Posted by earthman [+]
    I'm just wondering if Triumph now state 10k miles, possibly due to Tiger owners finding out that their valves have burnt out too?

    From owning both a Tex and a TTSE and hanging out on the Tex forum in a purely recreational capacity  :038: I don't recall having seen mention of this issue. It doesn't seem to be a hot topic amongst Tex owners.
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    Re: Camshaft timing check/adjust now done at 10000 miles! ?
    Reply #6 on: Aug 08, 2018, 07.28 am
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    *Originally Posted by teef.au [+]
    From owning both a Tex and a TTSE and hanging out on the Tex forum in a purely recreational capacity  :038: I don't recall having seen mention of this issue. It doesn't seem to be a hot topic amongst Tex owners.

    Could you put a thread on there about the change from 20k to 10k at least? Do they all know about that??

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    Re: Camshaft timing check/adjust now done at 10000 miles! ?
    Reply #7 on: Aug 08, 2018, 04.21 pm
    Aug 08, 2018, 04.21 pm
    Could you put a thread on there about the change from 20k to 10k......

    Whoa there !  Hold your Horses ! and, Easy "Tiger" !

    Before doing that, consider that there is only that 1 piece of UNDATED paper
    to surmise that the Schedule for checking and adjusting the Camshaft Timing
    on the Triumph TIGER model, is "currently" every 10,000 miles.
    ( I strongly suspect it is an outdated document that has been superceded ).

    I AM also a Member of the Triumph Tiger Explorer Forum, ( for reference purposes only ),
    and a quick SEARCH of that Forum reveals a number of comments about this Topic,
    which, in summary, include various Posts stating that the Schedule USED to be every 10,000 miles,
    when the Explorer was launched, but was subsequently changed to 20,000 miles ONLY.

    This seems to be confirmed by copies of Service Schedules dated as early as 09.2013,
    showing that to be the case, and confirmation from a named source at a US Triumph 24/7 Hotline.

    This would also seem to correlate with the latest Generic Schedule for
    "All Models with 10,000 mile ( 16,000 km ) service", ( which includes the Trophy AND the Explorer ),
    as mentioned in my previous Post,  indicating that the Check / Adjust is done at 20,000 miles.

    The only difference I can see is that it now appears as though the Check / Adjust is scheduled
    for every 20,000 miles, and not just the first 20,000 miles only - Which makes sense
    as every 20,000 miles the Valve clearances are scheduled to be checked and adjusted too.

    So for now, I would not recommend bringing forward the Camshaft Timing Check/Adjust,
    to 10,000 miles, and incurring the additional expense of doing so, without CONFIRMATION
    from Triumph that this is required, and I wouldn't recommend stirring the TEX Forum up
    by saying the Schedule has changed from 20,000 miles to 10,000 miles !

    Cheers  :821:

    Last Edit: Feb 27, 2020, 07.10 pm by Coconut