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  • Offline Blue42   us

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    Parts costs? Engine rebuild?
    on: Oct 27, 2018, 04.28 pm
    Oct 27, 2018, 04.28 pm
    I have searched for this and nothing is really coming up.  Does anyone have a general list of some parts costs?  Right now I have my search for my lifetime motorcycle narrowed down to a BMW K1600GT or a Trophy.  I have already been right through a Honda VFR, Kawasaki Concours, and now a Goldwing.  None of them are right, and I knew it within a month or less each time. 
    But the K1600GT seems like it might be a vacuum cleaner for your money.  I have seen a couple parts costs on the BMW that are pretty sorry.  Like $2500 for an ABS pump. 


    Also, has anyone rebuild the engine on their Trophy?  Simple stuff like rings and bearings?  Anyone?  I really don't like the idea of having to shoot an entire motorcycle because of an engine problem like a spun bearing or broken ring.  In the world of cars; at least GM or Ford, if a ring breaks or a bearing spins, there is this thing that you do.....you fix it.  Buy the parts for a few hundred bucks and replace them.  Although, on cars engine work has become a thing of the past since they all basically outlast the transmission and go to 200,000 miles plus. 

    But if my motorcycle engine goes, or anything else on the bike goes, I'd like to know that I could replace it at a somewhat reasonable cost and not be into a nightmare of finding parts and paying exorbitant costs for them. 


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    Re: Parts costs? Engine rebuild?
    Reply #1 on: Oct 27, 2018, 05.10 pm
    Oct 27, 2018, 05.10 pm
    You can see the cost of various parts At online sites like bike bandit

    https://www.bikebandit.com/triumph-oem-parts
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    Re: Parts costs? Engine rebuild?
    Reply #2 on: Oct 27, 2018, 06.17 pm
    Oct 27, 2018, 06.17 pm
    There's a complete engine ( a runner ) on eBay here for under $1900 :

    2013 Triumph 1215 Trophy SE COMPLETE Running Engine Motor 38K T1162810

    As already mentioned, Bike Bandit in the U.S. list NEW parts - if any are needed for rebuild work.

    There are over 3100 Members of this Forum - not all of them are Trophy Owners.
    Our Members have made, to date, over 101,500 Posts in the Forum.
    I've read the majority of them !

    While there have been one or two Engine problems where a replacement engine was needed,
    if I remember correctly these were attributable to an early Cylinder Head issue,
    and Triumph either replaced them under Warranty, or made a Goodwill contribution to the cost. 

    I can't recall any Member saying they have had to rebuild an engine themself - which is a good sign !

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    Re: Parts costs? Engine rebuild?
    Reply #3 on: Oct 28, 2018, 12.19 am
    Oct 28, 2018, 12.19 am
    Thanks. 
    I just looked and it's not all that bad.  $1600 for crankshaft assembly, which is the whole rotating assembly: crankshaft, rods, pistons, sleeves apparently.  And that's about what it should be.  Although it doesn't look like you can buy a crank by itself; at least not on Bike Bandit.  Which would be unfortunate if you spun a bearing. 
    On the BMW K1600GT the crankshaft, and JUST the crankshaft, is $2000.  One piston...one...is $330.  The rods are $180 each.  ...Can that really be right?  Apparently so.  So just replacing the bottom end on the BMW would be about $4700.  $1600 for the Trophy.  $4700 for the K1600.  That was $1600 for the Trophy, and $4700 for the K1600.  And my guess is that those kind of price comparisons are mostly across the board.   

    Anyway, I wouldn't be expecting an engine failure.  The Trophy seems as reliable as just about any bike.  Today you really should get 100k miles before the need for pulling the heads off to do anything.  But I wanted to know that if I did spin a bearing, break a ring, bend a rod, or break a piston (all of which do happen) that I could fix it without having to trash the whole bike.  I keep stuff forever normally, so I'm looking for a bike I could keep for ten years. 

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    Re: Parts costs? Engine rebuild?
    Reply #4 on: Oct 28, 2018, 12.23 am
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    I said this somewhere else, but I was looking at a Porsche Cayman, although I have never owned anything but American cars.  But after a lot of reading I saw that you'd basically better just trash the whole car if anything went wrong with the engine.  You either couldn't buy the parts, or the engine was so complicated and hard to put together you'd wish you just shot the car if you tried to fix it.  That absolutely turns me off of any vehicle if that's the case.  A pathetic job by the engineers and/or the company in my opinion. 

    If a motorcycle is like that, I'm not buying it.  Initially it looks like the Triumph is not.  It looks like you could fix just about anything that broke on it without exorbitant costs.  That would kind of match the feeling I've gotten about the company from various places. 

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    Re: Parts costs? Engine rebuild?
    Reply #5 on: Oct 28, 2018, 01.51 am
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    I really doubt you would ever have to touch the engine on this bike. Better to look at the price of stuff you really might need or use like plastic parts. Triumph parts are so much cheaper than most other makes its ridiculous. 50 bucks for a turn signal Assy, 80 bucks for the painted part of the side bags which unscrew and would take 2 minutes to change. Look what those parts would cost for the BMW, Goldwing etc. the trophy isn't as fast as a fjr or Concours but is way more comfortable. Goldwing and K1600gtl are more comfy but way more money. I just think you get way more bang for your buck with the Trophy. Just my thoughts.

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    Re: Parts costs? Engine rebuild?
    Reply #6 on: Oct 28, 2018, 02.14 am
    Oct 28, 2018, 02.14 am
    Sounds pretty good Xhdracer.  I like those prices and, I agree that it looks like you get a whole lot more for your money with Triumph.  They were selling the bikes, NEW, for $13k.  I think the Trophy is something that should have sold ten times what it did, that people just missed. 

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    Re: Parts costs? Engine rebuild?
    Reply #7 on: Oct 28, 2018, 10.19 am
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    I'm not saying that Triumph parts are exactly cheap but BMW  parts are renowned for being expensive from what I gather, a friend told me the other day that a new chain and sprockets for one of their smaller models resulted in bill of £800 for the  owner.

     



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