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    Complete engine and electronics shut down
    on: Oct 31, 2018, 11.07 pm
    Oct 31, 2018, 11.07 pm
    Hello all,
    Rode my 2017 TTSE to work this morning, pulled into the parking spot and the bike and all electronics shut off completely, as if I had turned the key switch off. I toggled the key swich off and on again, it went through the normal checks, and started up fine. Worked all day,wemt to leave and it started fine. Was warming it up as I put my gear on, and died again. Toggled the key again, it started, I rode it for about 100 yards, it completely died again. Had to leave it at work....   I see on this site where there were some TPS issues on the 2013 models, however they did not mention electrical shut down as well as the engine shutting down.
    Obviously, I will be contacting the dealer in the morning, but has anyone experienced this on the newer models or have any suggestions what to look for? Appreciate any help.

    Cheers.



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    Re: Complete engine and electronics shut down
    Reply #1 on: Oct 31, 2018, 11.50 pm
    Oct 31, 2018, 11.50 pm
    Mine has shut down twice.  Both times it was simply a loose positive battery terminal.
    Hope that's all it is for you.
    Good luck!
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    Re: Complete engine and electronics shut down
    Reply #2 on: Nov 01, 2018, 12.50 am
    Nov 01, 2018, 12.50 am
    Checking the Main Battery terminals as suggested is quick and easy to do.

    If they are OK, it sounds like it could be the : "Ignition Switch Wiring Failure" issue.

    Due to poor routing of the wires that emerge from the base of the Ignition switch,
    towards the left side of the bike, they can be put under strain when the handlbars
    are turned to the right, eventually resulting in the wires being severed !

    The problem usually becomes noticeable if your turn the Ignition ON,
    then move the handlebars fully to the right and back a few times.

    This happened on my Trophy ( 2017 ) five months ago, fortunately under warranty, and Triumph
    replaced the complete lock set to ensure I did not end up with a different key for the Igntion.

    Cheers  :821:



    Last Edit: Feb 05, 2020, 12.57 pm by Coconut

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    Re: Complete engine and electronics shut down
    Reply #3 on: Nov 01, 2018, 09.29 am
    Nov 01, 2018, 09.29 am
    My money is on the wiring to the ignition switch. Try turning thee ignition on and sweeping the bars left to right to see if it replicates the fault. You can also grasp the wires to the switch, under the top yoke, and wiggle them about to try and achieve the same

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    Re: Complete engine and electronics shut down
    Reply #4 on: Nov 01, 2018, 11.25 am
    Nov 01, 2018, 11.25 am
    Thanks all for the replies. Yup, looking like the ignition switch wiring. I was able to wiggle the harness a bit and got all electronics back and was able to start it. Once I move the bars, everything dies again.
    Time for the trailer ride of shame to the dealer.
    Thanks again for the help,
    Greg

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    Re: Complete engine and electronics shut down
    Reply #5 on: Nov 01, 2018, 12.54 pm
    Nov 01, 2018, 12.54 pm
    Glad the cause has been determined.  You won't be bothered with that problem again anyway. :821:
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    Re: Complete engine and electronics shut down
    Reply #6 on: Nov 01, 2018, 01.20 pm
    Nov 01, 2018, 01.20 pm
    All this on a one year old bike. Not really good enough I think.

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    Re: Complete engine and electronics shut down
    Reply #7 on: Nov 01, 2018, 01.54 pm
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    *Originally Posted by Coconut [+]
    Checking the Main Battery terminals as suggested is quick and easy to do.

    If they are OK, it sounds like it could be the : "Ignition Switch Wiring Failure" issue.

    Due to poor routing of the wires that emerge from the base of the Ignition switch,
    towards the left side of the bike, they can be put under strain when the handlbars
    are turned to the right, eventually resulting in the wires being severed !

    The problem usually becomes noticeable if your turn the Ignition ON,
    then move the handlebars fully to the right and back a few times.

    This happened on my Trophy ( 2017 ) five months ago, fortunately under warranty, and Triumph
    replaced the complete lock set to ensure I did not end up with a different key for the Igntion.

    Cheers  :821:



    Did they do anything to address the problem of these wires being hit/rubbed by the brake pipe though?